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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:14 am

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(Unknown)

Master, Good guess but S S A won the year before this horse.
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linda faye

Now Mr. Mason surely you would not rely on Casey Jones to tell you something?????. I know that you and Casey goes back a way since I have the pleasure of calling him my second Dad--he would drag us to horeshow every weekend---My son Cliff Wilson (yes you know him Nolen Wilson son's followed in Casey footsteps and now traines, shows and is a farrer. SO come good things came for you "old timer" I tell my son each day----go back to the way it was when we all showed our horse---we had fun we all worked together-every trainer helped each other---and look--each of you was successful in your own way.
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master

One more guess...Goldfinger.
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(Unknown)

Master, That's the one.
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broomman

Kywalker.....I have now come up with a photo of Lem Motlows horse....."Chief Allen"...dated Septmeber 1939.
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everready

What trainer was riding Goldfinger? and about the same time frame the same trainer won the Aged Gelding class, What was the geldings name.
Everett
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Big Ed

My guess is Wink Groover was riding Goldfinger.
Eddie
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C. Biscuit

Aged gelding Golden Sundust with Wink Groover
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everready

Yep--Ed it was Wink , what was the age gelding he was riding, he was Golden also
Everett
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everready

Yep--C. Biscuit it was Golden Sundust
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everready

What was What I think was the BEST 2YR old mares name that wink won the 2 yr old stake with?
I think she was the best 2yr old EVER showed at the celebration( my opinion)
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(Unknown)

Copy's Valentine?
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everready

Speaking of Wink, I think he has won EVERY open class from 2yr. olds thru aged class's mares and studs, and every Championship class from 2,3, 4,and the big stake. someone check this out, and i believe he is the ONLY trainer to ever reach this milestone.
Everett
p.s. Wink was tough on a horse but a GREAT horse trainer
Thinking about this subject, i have been away from the horse business for the last 15 yrs.Maybe one of the Mc Conells BOYS are both might have reached that milestone,if so forgive me guys.
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everready

Yep--Moonglow66 Copys Valentine is correct, I get cold chill bumps ever time i think about that mare. Such a shame she come down with sleeping sickness, I think she could have won the big stake. If she could have cantered the nite she won the 2 yr. stake , she could have won it then.
E
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BUBBADOG

Amen Everready - that mare was a bad walking thang wasn't she? About that same time I had a gelding that came from Wink - Sensational Sundust - he was by far the toughest horse I was ever associated with - he didn't know how to quit and could walk off of his back legs.
J441 - I remember your family - if I am not mistaken your family's box was very close to one of ours at the Celebration - your daddy was RB Hickey, right?
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(Unknown)

E, no doubt Wink has won his share of blues at the Celebration. The one area he did not excell in was juvenile and amateur horses. I imagine Billy Gray and the McConnell boys have pretty much won every division.
Did Wink ever win the 15.2 championship?
Valentine was a great filly. I think Bummin Around at Montgomery when he was three was maybe the best horse I remember.
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Big Ed

The best horse I ever saw at any one time was Delite Double Clutch as a 3 yr.old at the Old Dominion Walking Horse Classic in Volens, Va. I think 1975,76. Maybe Mason will respond. By the way, The feds were there with the machine.
Eddie
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everready

Moonglow66
You know i dont know for sure, but i thought Wink did win those 15.2 and class's, if we dont find out by the trainers show i will find out while i am at the show.I had talked to wink years ago and we were thinking that he had won them all.
E
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SOLID1313

Everett, has it been 15 years LOL as I think back your the only horse trainer I've known that didn't get their hands or clothes dirty! No I take that back the other one would be Sonny Holt
Sherry
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J441

Was and still is, Bubbadog. He's 84 and still kicking, just not quite as high as he once did.
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everready

Yep its been a long time sherry, yeah we did stay pretty clean,but i have seen sonny a little dirty.
Everett
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old budd

J441/Richard Hickey
hopefully you can give me some straight facts, since you knew Vic T well. I was out of country (Air Force) when all the trouble happened and I never could find out the facts of his problem with law and horses. I know he showed some fine horses before I went to AF in '50. Thanks for help in this matter.
old buddy
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SOLID1313

TOO FUNNY I'VE NEVER SEEN HOLT DIRTY......STILL REMEMBER THAT OLDER FELLA U. WORKED FOR IN FL. U. HAD HIM CRAWLING AROUND ON THE FLOOR. U. SHOULD BE ASHAMED LOL! SHERRY
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everready

Sherry
That old man enjoyed putting on grease and changing chains, he thought he could pick up some training points that way,course i never told him any differance.He was a YOUNG trainer wantta be,trapped in an OLD persons body,felt sorrow for him in a way.
see ya'll at the trainers show.
Everett
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makethecut

Has anyone ever seen D. Landrum dirty or with grease on his hands?
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:55 am

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SOLID1313

YEAH I BET YOU DID LOL! LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AT THE TRAINERS SHOW
SHERRY
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everready

What was the horses name and the rider of the 2yr old championship in 1959
Everett
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(Unknown)

Lu's Lu Lu and C. A. Bobo for Mr. and Mrs. Joe Bales.
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(Unknown)

Who won the Junior Championship in 1959?
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BUBBADOG

Make the Cut - I can't believe you said that - I was just fixin to type the very same words. Great minds think alike - don't they?
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J441

Ole Budd, I never really knew that story. I saw Vic & Wink trade a few punches in the warm up area, saw Vic slap a former son-in-law one night at the Celebration, and rode in his Lincoln while he drove through Eureka Missouri at about 75 mph with little regard for the traffic lights, but I never knew much about any legal issues.
By the way, Vic once worked for the TN Department of Agriculture in his later years as an Equine Marketing Specialist. Just another little bit of Vic trivia.
I remember Vic at his finest one night with my dad and Mr. Mosteller. He told stories until the wee hours of the morning. You never forget those times.
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Saddle Tramp

Moonglow66
Fair Warning won the Junior WGC in 59 & was ridden by the bubble gum smacking Charley BoBo from Lebanon Tn.
You guys must have a 60 Blue Ribbon.
Did you know that theres a 39 program with the classes tied, in the 60 Blue Ribbon.
I thought that Lu's Lu Lu was a yearling shown in the late sixties.

The Butter Cups (Jonquils or Daffodils) are popping up everywhere, here in Middle Tn & looking beautiful.
It would also be nice to see a new foal sprinting around the pasture.

Can anyone name Hoyt Tenpenny's Dad & his Dad's 2 brothers that were also horse trainers?
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Mason

Would that be RAY Mack and Willard? I knew them all esp Mack & Willard
Mason
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Saddle Tramp

Mason
Yep

Which ones showed Society Man, Mack K's Mr Calico &
Go Boys Cheerleader?
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(Unknown)

Tramp,
You are correct.It was Fair Warning and Chewing Gum Charley.Fair Warning was also owned by Mr. & Mrs. Joe Bales, the owners of Lu's Lu Lu. Unusual enough for two mares to win the 2 y.o. and junior championship, let alone being owened by the same folks.
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Red Ace

Willard Tenpenny showed Mr Calico as did his owner. Cheerleader was shown by Ray Tenpenny
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(Unknown)

Mac Tenpenny showed Society Man when he was working with Steve Hill.
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Do you know hoyt& jane tenpenny? If you do, tell them Everett said hello, i will probably see them at the trainers show.
Everett
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Big Ed

My grandad used to speak of Mac & Willard Tenpeny, Johnny Brown and someone called "Lightning" Can't remember his last name. Eddie
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everready

Ed
That was probably (Lighting) Gregory, he was a trainer from S.Carolina
Everett
I think in his later years Lighting had a tack shop, and come up with a lot of BITS that were used for years.
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Mason

ED I remember one time when I was a kid working at Steve Hills ..something was said about your Grand daddy...I dont remember WHO but think MAYBE it was Johnnie Brown that said "Bob Waggoner could make a horse with a Monkey and a pair of chains IF the monkey would listen to him."

I'll NEVER forget that...NOW thats a compliment I dont care WHO you are!
Mason
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Big Ed

Mason, Steve Hill told me the same thing. That is a compliment because I don't remember Steve ever singing praises of anyone. Steve did follow it with a "but he let the liquor ruin him". Actually I was going to write and see if anybody had ever heard that before.
Eddie
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everready

Mason & Ed
I remember when i was a small kid, mason i think when we went to school in the Grove, i think Bob was working for Steve then, that had to around 51,52,53, my dad was working for steve at that time, he was a Groom and took care of Talk of The Town.
Everett
Mason if you run into johnny brown ask him does he remember (Rock Majors) that was the nickname i think either Steve are Mr French Brantly gave my dad , his first name was Oscar.
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Big Ed

Everett, he worked for Steve two different times. Several years in the 40's. Helped to build Steves barn whenever that was. He told me he broke Midnight Merry. Was back there sometime again in 50's.
Eddie
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everready

Ed
Thats about right, i just barly remember him, i think he was a tall slender man, and i do remember everybody saying what a GREAT horse trainer he was, i do think i met him at one time are the other. Another trainer at steves back then off and on was Slim Hill, i don't think he was related to steve.
Everett
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everready

Mason
The next time you come off the interstate at Bch. Grove coming from Manchester, look to the right about where that over pass is , the old Milk Barn is still standing( are it was about 3 yrs ago)Steve lived in the Big house on the other side of that old barn and we lived in the Little house this side of the barn, about where the Exit is now. I would walk across the field to School( No it was'nt 5 miles in the snow we have heard that one before) where you and i went, to grade school.
Everett
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Big Ed

Everett, Mason,anybody?I do remember him talking about Slim Hill. I believe "no relation" is correct. Do you remember Charly Mullins, aka 7-up. He drove a pop truck and went to work with my grandad in the late 40's, maybe when he was at Steves. A little wiry fellow. Stayed with him for years and finally went out on his own about 1960. Stayed around Maryland most of his career. Don't ever remember him having any quality stock.Eddie
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everready

Ed
I do remember Charly Mullins, the last time i saw him , I judged a Show in Winter Garden Fl. at Mr Frank Ropers place, and he won the Stake. I dont remember the horse he showed i think they were 5 in the class.Albert Rowland was training for mr Roper at the time, it must have been in the early 80's,
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

all yall good ole boys
I do know Hoyt & Johny Brown & will tell them to go to the Trainers show, I will be going, Lord willing.
All of my questions were answered correctly.
Theres a picture of Slim Hill astraddle a donkey & holding an umbrella in one of my old magazines. Its either a blueribbon or one of Jimmy Joe Murrays.
Did he go out on his own & whatever happened to him.
Red Stacey is still Training in Bradyville for Ike Vinson, who has moved back from Va.
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everready

Saddle Tramp
I know Red and Ike, next time you see those guys tell them i said hello, i heard slim died several yrs. ago ,but i am not sure, he had 2 boys Jim and Bill its been 40 yrs. since i've seen Jim and a lot longer that since seen Bill.
Everett
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:11 am

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Big Ed

Saddletramp,
Ike was a good friend and supporter for many years. Did not know he was still alive. Did not know Red was still training. When he left Hideway Farm in Bluemont he went to work at a mobile home mfg. company. He was a tough man to train behind.

My grandad told me they used to have a walking mule class at the celebration. Anybody ever heard that?
Eddie
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everready

Yep Ed they did have walking mules at the celebration, they look funny with them big ears flopping, but saddling fools
E
Speaking of mules, the hardest fall was off of a mule,in Bell Buckle,my dad run a dairy farm for about 3 yrs before he passed on, my job was getting the cows rounded up at 3 o'clock in the morning(Now you all know why i get up so early)This dame mule one morning threw me so high i could touch the stars, I told my dad from then on i would walk to get the cows up.
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everready

The Dairy farm we lived on was across the street from Betty Sains stables,Some of you folks knows about Bell Buckle knows where that farm is , It belong to John & Sam Meek , they built me a horse barn there so i could break thier colts.i remember I took Preach Fleming over to bettys to look at Shaker's Shocker as a two yr. old.He said you could not give me that big gaulkly s.o.b.,i said then one day he would win the Big Stake.I loved Betty like a sister, but he was not one of my favorite W.G.C'S, but that night the way the judges work the class I would have tied him First also.When i grow up and get ready to retire, I might move back to Bell Buckle , Tn.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Ed & Ev
Ikes Phone no. is 1-615-563-6115
Reds stoop shoulders are now resembling a hump, but he was riding a couple of good horses for the last couple years. I went to school with 3 of his nephews whose dad killed his wife & then himself. Elwood Howland finished raising the boys. One of these boys was the first to tell me about the Celebratiuon.
(Ike will know me as Ken that trades horse books)
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everready

Speaking of Bell Buckle, does anyone remember Miss Jeans store on the end building, BEST Ice Cream you ever licked on, and the Drug Store on the corner. I was in the drug store having a coke the morning after The Beatles was on the Ed Sullivan Show, every body in there was talking about the MOP HEAD BOYS, and all that SHAKING they were doing what a DISGRACE to mankind.Wonder what those same people are thinking today, i know what i am thinking, them MOP HEAD BOYS were SAINTS compared to whats going on on T.V. TODAY, now this S--- IS A DISGRACE to mankind. I NEVER thought i would live to see this kind of MESS on T.V. today,MY MY MY.
Everett
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Mason

Everett
I dont know why everyone doesnt live in Wartrace or Bell Buckle...I love it... the NIGHT life here is uncomparable!That is if you like peace and quiet.AND I DO! Nothin but Hoot Owls, crickets and frogs croaking. Good for the soul
Mason
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Saddle Tramp

Mason
Have you ever eaten in the Country Kitchen Cafe coming in to Wartrace from BeechGrove on Hwy 64 on the left?
If so, is it any good?
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everready

Mason
The people that has never lived in the country don't know what they have missed. One of these days we might be neighbors again,I SURE DO MISS THAT SLOW COUNTRY LIVING.Back when we were growing up' no body got in a hurry, but sure got a lot done in a day.Gosh Dang i gotta quit talking like that, i 'll be moving to Tn. tommorrow.
Everett
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Big Ed

Anybody remember the Hinson Boot? Lead & Oil in a clear plastic tube. They were a real "piece of work".
Dr. Hinson thought they were going to save the industry. Did anybody ever get one hitting in those things? I D--n sure couldn't.
Eddie
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everready

Yea Ed i got one hitting with that boot thier KNEES
E
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
I remember the day after, the Beatles were on Sullivan.
I was 15 & went over to a friends house, an older redneck type guy. He was sure telling us how sissified they were & about singing "I want to hold your Hand".
Their hair was just like Moes on the 3 stooges. I believe they were responsible for the Hippie & drug craze that followed. I remember about 1956 I slipped up on a neighbors porch on Sunday night & looked thru the window & saw Elvis on the Sullivan show. I was 7 & we didn't have a tv. I had heard my Dad threaten my sisters about listening to him. Did you ever see
Arthur Godfrey & his Horse Goldie? He was 1 beautiful
animal, I wonder what breed he was?
Can you tell me where Betty worked Shocker, She had a backyard operation & a small backyard at that. Ive wondered about the Webb school property or that Dairy across the street where you said your Dad worked. She has just moved from Manchester to the Lynchburg area.
Curious (saddletramp)
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Mason

Well SADDLETRAMP its NOT the Olive Garden but Hey man its close! And it is OK.We have found that you dont run to the CITY(M'boro) everytime you want to...you have to plan your trips...but its an easy price to pay for THE GOOD LIFE
Mason
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Saddle Tramp
Betty worked Shocker down behind the stable, she rode down a dirt road that went back into some big fields. Back then they weren't many houses in the back of her mom's property.That little barn just had 4 stalls, when she had shocker she had a white horse called traveler, and 2 BIG german shepards, and they would eat your A-- up,one of them liked to got me one day,i walked over to see her, got to the the gait and hollered for her, she didn't answer but i heard the radio playing, not thinking i opened the gate the next thing i saw was someting white( looked like a white grissly)that dog missed me by a hair,all i heard was betty screaming stop, and he did,but you can guess what i almost done.Webb School would not let her ride on that property.As far as the dairy farm across from bettys ,the last time i went thru Bell Buckle, one of the old barns was still there, the milk barn was gone,I had heard A. Godfreys horse was a walker, but dont know for sure.If you ever run into betty give her my love.We must be about the same age, i am a 43-er, no i just figured out you are just a young whipper snapper, wasn't it 1964 when the Beatles was on T.V?
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
It could have been 64. I was born in the spring of 49.
That white horse was Merry Boys Traveler & I heard he was just as mean as that German Sheperd.
The Sains lived in Manchester before Bellbuckle & had a small trucking business & maybe a Motel.
Have yall ever heard of anyone else named Elizabeth using Betty as a nickname?
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everready

Saddle Tramp Traveler was a mean son of a gun ,I think you are right about the Sains, i knew all of them bettys dad was Pearl ,brother was Parker and i think parker still lives in Bell Buckle. I think he still lives on Bch Grove rd. across from where bettys last stable was.I have another friend of ours name is Elizabeth and she goes by betty also.I think it was 64 about the Beatles , i was 20 at the time i was born in 43, but dont look a day over 62.
Everett
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Big Ed

Everett,
Just thought of a good one. You remember when Gene Batten saw you had a Rolex watch on? Asked you where you got it and you said, "Marvin Humphries gave it to me for doing such a good job." Batten said, "G**d** Majors, he never gave me no Rolex watch and I did a helluva lot better job for him than you did!"
Eddie
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Eveready
About 66 or 67 I went with a man to Bellbuckle & ended up at a black man namsd Joe Waldens house. While there Pearl Sain showed up. He owned the place. My friend & Joe Walden drank whiskey out of the same bottle. My friend bought an old strawberry roan gelding named Dexter for 75 dollars from Joe. That was one of the smoothest horses that I have ridden.
Along about that same time, I went with Elwood Howland & his bunch to the Smyrna Tn horse show. He had just converted a Ryder rental truck into a vann.
It was the first time out in it. When he pulled the ramp down, it came a flood. When it stopped raining, he tried to lead a horse down that wet rubber ramp & it slid & fell on him & crushed his fore arm. They had to rush him to Nashville & perform surgery. Thats all I remember about that show except it was at a stock car track.(This was the same man with the giant black Walking horse that paraded him around with the white tack)
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Who can name the 5 mares that were WGCs and their trainers?
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Big Ed

Midnight Merry, Steve Hill; White Star, Percy Moss; Melody Maid ?; City Girl, Nub Small; Black Angel, I think Floyd Carruthers rode one of them.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

Black Angel with Winston Wiser, Melody Maid and City Girl with Urban Small, Midnight Merry with Steve Hill and White Star with Percy Moss.
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Tramp and Ed, That was pretty quick, and you got them. Now which of these mares produced a world champion? Name the horse and rider.
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everready

Yea Ed i i remember showing that watch to Batten, but what i didn't tell him it was one of those FAKE rolex, but we did have a lot of fun with it.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Moonglow66
None of them produced a WGC but Melody Produced Melodys Heir who might have won yearling or 2 yr old.
Black Angel was bred to ole sun & had daughter of champs later owned by Mr TJ White of west Tn.

Did any of you uns see Midnight Merry? I have heard conflicting storys on her quality. I've heard she was just a run away trotting mare & have heard she was great.
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Sadlbum

Tramp,Melody's Heir and Nub Small won the Junior Championship at the 1947 Celebration.They beat the odds on favorite Honey Gold and Steve Hill.
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Mason

I remember seeing her at Steves barn ...in MY YOUNG mind anything was good that had a set tail! Honestly dont remember her quality
Mason
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:21 am

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Who won the Walking Pony class at the first Celebration?
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Mason

PROBABLY Casey Jones ...hes the OLDEST man STILL ALIVE that showed a pony...
Mason
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MarkD1

Something in my mind tells me it was Berry Coffey. However, I'm probably wrong.
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(Unknown)

Mason and Mark, not Casey Jones Or Berry Coffee, but it was someone we all know.
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broomman

Tennessee Traveller?
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Mason

Bob Womack ? BUT he still AINT as OLD as CASEY JONES...Casey played with Moses when they were kids!
Mason
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broomman

Bill Tune?
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everready

Bill Harlin?
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Broomman,You got it. Tennessee Traveler and William C. Tune Jr. of Shelbyville were the winners ot he Walking Pony 58 inch and under class at the 1939 Celebration.
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everready

Mason i'm with you Ain't nobody as old as Casey Jones
E
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broomman

That ought to get me Mason's autograph.

I have really enjoyed this thread. It has brought back many memories.
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Big Ed

Late to respond on Midnight Merry, some of us still work in the daytime. My grandad helped train her when he was with Steve and even had a customer buy her for and amateur mount after the WGC. He retired from WH around 1970. But always said she was the greatest mare of all times and could really flat walk. His favorite horse.
Eddie
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(Unknown)

Broomman, Nope, I don't know that one.
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broomman

Broomman, Nope, I don't know that one.
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(Unknown)

Maybe they were more trusting back in those days. N.B.Hardeman owned a lot of winning horses back in the 40's. Another question, Dr. Porter Rogers was the breeder of 4 WGCs. Name them.
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Saddle Tramp

Brumeman
The same way they did Charlie Ramsey, He had just sold Strolling Jim in the spring & judged him at the Celebration. Some people could & would call it like they see it & some could & would be dishonest.
The mare was Maid of Cotten. 2 years ago Jimmie Gray told me that he could have beaten Midnight sun in 45 with her, but Preacher Hardeman would not let him show her on Sunday night. He still holds a grudge to this day.(the show was on thur, fri & sat ?????)
Yall ought to see Jimmies living room, he quit training when pads came in. He's still got all of his old pictures on the wall.
One of my favorites that I've talked with is Jimmies
Bro inlaw J.T. Leech, a Former saddle bred man & later a top walking horse trainer.
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everready

Where is our first WGC Strolling Jim buried ?
E
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Saddle Tramp

Moonglo66
1. Rodgers Perfection
2. Go Boys Shadow
3. Perfections Carbon Copy
4. Sonny Dee Bar (Guessing O.G. Big Man)
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Saddle Tramp

Evereddy
Behind the wh hotel in wart race.
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everready

Yep Saddle Tramp thats right, thats where the ole Jim is laid to rest.
E
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You got em Tramp.
Who won the two stud classes at the Celebration the year The Touch won?
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everready

What was the Name of the last MARE to win the BIG STAKE and what year
also What was the Name of the last GELDING to win the BIG STAKE and what year
E
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(Unknown)

Talk Of The Town in 53 and White Star in 54.
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Saddle Tramp

MOONGLOW
I don't know right off & my year after blueribbon is put away. I know the blueribbon with his mug on the front cover is awful looking. It just has a head & neck shot on it & he has a bad UUUUUUU neck. Whoever picked that picture should have gotten an "F" on their report card. I would like to know those 2 winners that you asked about. I didn't notice him until they announced him as winner.
Charlie Martins Joe Martin raised him & told me that he couldn't get anyone to ride him. He said that a black man at Ramseys finally started dog walking him.
Then he traded him to Hoyle Walker & Chad & the Black man went to Walkers also. Then Chad started riding him.
Sadlbum
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:02 am

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everready

Yep Moonglow66 thats right ,but that one was to easy,but sure has been a long time, and may never be seen again.
E
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Tramp, I think he may have been our ugliest WGC.
Who built a duplicate of the ring at the Celebration, exact same size, and what horse did he build it for in preperation for the WGC?
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longshanks

Saddletramp, Joe Weaver put old Touch to hitting at Ramsey's before he was sold to the Walker's and moved to Columbia for Chad. You're right about one thing though, he was/is UGLY. I don't know if you know Joe Weaver, but I worked for him for a while and all I can say is sometimes it takes a tough man to work a tough horse.
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Saddle Tramp

Moonglow66
Joe Webb built a duplicate ring of the Celebration for Rogers Perfection.
Who was more fanatical about their hair? Elvis, Roy Orbison, Howard Hamilton or Joe Webb.
Who had a big mirror hanging in the hall of his barn so he could see the lick that he was putting on a horse?
Who showed fine harness ponies in Scottsville Ky while growing up & then won the WGC 2 times?
What kind of horse was Sonny Dee Bar that I mentioned earlier & what WGC was he marked like?
What trainer saw a yearling at the sale of champions & borrowed 20k from his customer & later won the WGC.
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everready

Saddle Tramp-I think that was Sammy Day you were asking about from KY.I have no clue on the rest, but good questions
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everready

Ramsey was from Altivista, VA. the same town country singer Ricky van Shelton was from.I met ramsey when i was training in Brookneal Va.and he was training part time for Franice Tucker and working for the City, thats about 15 miles down the road from Brookneal, and was always a good horse trainer, and a hard worker.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
It wasn't Sammy.
Saddletramp
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everready

Well S. Tramp you got me stumped on that one.
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Saddle Tramp

Evr.
at least 2 more trainers, who came from Ky won the WGC at least 2 times. Go Boys F.C. & S.D. Precision would know.
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everready

One more try
Ronnie Spears
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Saddle Tramp

Evr.
Yes ronnie told me he had harness ponies & you can sort of tell by the way he holds his reins.
Bud Dunn was also from the bluegrass state.

Ain't you gonna touch on the hair fanatics?
Trubble maker
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everready

Everyone that knows me ,knows i am a fanatic about my hair.That was my M.O. in the horse business, Hair and my PIPE. I just remembered that Ronnie told me that years ago also, but did not know Mr. Bud was from Ky.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Evr.
well I don't know about you, but did or have you ever seen Joe Webb or Howard Hamilton outside the ring with a cap or hat on.
Joe was the one with the mirror in the barn hall & that was sharp thinking.
Russ Thompson is the one that borrowed the money & bought Armed.
Sonny Dee Bar was a quarter horse that stood for 20,000 in the 80's. He was colored & marked like Mountain Man.

I'll be out most of the day but will leave you with a Question. What mare birthed a WGC & later on had Twins.
Her & twins are in a picture with another mare & twins.
one set by go boy & others by ole sun.
bye Trampest
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Red Ace

Dam of Setting Sun. Mare was Alice Carver
Lord, you got to be old to play this game. Showed at Celeb first time in 1953. So I qualify.
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Saddle Tramp

Red Ace
You are absolutely 100% correct. Are you just now tuning in, or have you just been listening for awhile?
Have you seen the Picture that I referred to? You wouldn't be Fred T. , would you?
Saddle Tramp
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everready

Does anyone remember these 2 Brothers from Ga. One from Calhoun, and the other was from Rome, they were big in the Horse Business, and they both were in the car business.
Everett
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Red Ace

Nope. Not him. Yes I have seen the photo. In fact I have the magazine that it appeared in around here somewhere. Think it was National Horseman. I am just a lurker but this one I couldn't pass up. I got to ride Setting Sun after Sam won with him.
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Mason

DAVIS BROS CHEV DEALERS ? Bonnie & Roy...Harold Kennedy was with them before he went to Circle T in Texas I think
Mason
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everready

Right Mason
Me and Kenny Burke worked for Mr.Roy , i think around 59,60 somewhere in that era. was'nt Roy President of the TWHBA. at one time, i remember he showed a horse called Mr. Cherolet, and i think Mr.Impala.
Everett
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bigdaddy

I have enjoyed reading what you OLD TIMER talking about the good old days .
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bigdaddy

Forgot to sign my last post mhw low country
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bigdaddy
If you didn't live back in them GOOD OLE DAYS , you just don't know what you missed, but if you did you know what we are talking about.Everybody showing horses and having a great time,and enyoyed one anothers jokes, Could not wait until showtime.Reasoned I missed spelled enjoyed above i was thinking about Dewey Henderson, he had a speech impediment, I,M laughing so hard right now just thinking about him telling jokes.
Everett
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twhlady

Actually Roy and Nig......and Bonnie and Jean built their Shelbyville, TN stables on their farm at Ben Williams Road out towards Unionville..........They named their stables BelAire.......(another Chevy name).....

Sarah Lynn
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everready

Sara- you are right , i've been in that stable a many of times, but i had forgot Roy & Bonnie built that stable.What ever happened to Bill Davis,roys son i am sure he followed in Roy's footsteps in the auto business, and didn't ONE of Bonnies boys get killed sometime in the 60's.I knew both of bonnies boys but cant remember neither of thier names, i can still see thier faces ,just not the names.Speaking of Bonnie and jean, i dont know why i thought of this , but Steve Hills 2 daughters names was Bonnie Jean & Joyce Ann and Joyce Ann married Chuck Taylor that played pro Baseball for a while
Everett
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everready

Hey y'all Lawrence Welk reruns is on tonight, (SAT. NITE)don't forget, them younguns on here are wonderin who the Hell is that.
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sat May 01, 2010 6:15 am

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twhlady

Everett:

Connell........showed horses and used Roy's surname. I think his father was Jean's first husband, Dr. Norton. I think John Norton, Shelbyville attorney might be related.........
As for Joyce Ann Hill......I think Chuck played with St. Louis...last time I remembered.......but as a die hard Yankee fan, I did not keep up too much with St. Louis........though I cheered for them last year.

Bye.....not going to dance to the LWelk music...I prefer the rock 'n roll of my youth.........

Sarah Lynn
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twhlady

Just a thought for all us "oldies".....
This thread was begun just a little over 4 months and over 1400 posts ago.

In the ensuing days, we old codgers have solved many questions, brought up lots of trivia, remembered many old friends, drawn roadmaps through the countryside, discussed many of the great old horses, and still continue to remain happy and contented friends with each other.

I believe this is the only thread on any chat where folks are happy and contented with each other and the many subjects about which we speak.

Does this speak well of us old folks......is it a sign of aging.....was the past really better......or are we yearning for bygone days.........

Just a thought.....

Sarah Lynn
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jwalker

What ever became of those special shoes that Joe Webb came up with? Did anyone ever use them and why did they quit using them?
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everready

Sara-John Norton was Jean Davis son by her first marriage and Connell was John's brother, you shook my memeory, now i remember them well.Chuck did play with St. Louis , COME ON NOW MR WELK ain't that bad, I'M PURE COUNTRY MUSIC(That might be a good song in that title) Mason.
Everett
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everready

Jwalker
WE filled them hollow shoes with everything from b.b's to Mercury and they just didn't work.Gotta give Joe credit he would try anything that he thought would work, some did some didn't.
Everett
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everready

As you all can tell i love this thread, reliving them GOOD OLE DAYS, but i do work someTIME, NOT MUCH.Thank you SARA for starting this thread, DAVID H. should give you a metal.
Everett
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(Unknown)

the Davis' Belair farm on Ben Williams is now my place...we bought it from Mariane and JT back in the late 90's....the old barn was too far gone to redo (it was built before the days of treated wood), so we burnt it down and put up a new one......this was back in 2002.....thought about putting the ashes in boxes and sending them to everyone..there were tons of old stories and such out of the old place....my old horse Quarterback's Stock is buried out front..we raise colts and show some down here, moved here from Ohio back in 99
Richard Wall's place is across the road....

Denise Rowland
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B

The winner of the stud classes the year The Touch won the big stake were Ultra Copy and Bill Cantrell and Pusher's Big Score and Scott Benham.
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Red Ace

Hey. Glad someone remembers Dewey. I was showing at Clearwater Florida back in the early 60's and he was riding a palomino Saddlebred who had gotten excited and had his front feet over the low rail. He kept tapping him with the whip saying. unp in or ump out you sorry s o b. No way he could say Jump.
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Red Ace

Also didn't we have fun back then. Saddlebreds and Walking horses showing together. Everyone pulled for each other. I showed both breeds and an Arabian now and then.. I love any horse that does well what he was bred to do. No difference between breeds. They are all show horses,.
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twhlady

Anyone know the association between Dewey Henderson and Tabasco Sauce? Bet some of the Saddle Horse folks have to answer this one........

Sarah Lynn
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Red Ace

I know one of the Tabasco heiresses was into ASB's but I never heard of that connection. Dewey was a one of a kind. One of my favorite photos is of him standing on the bike seat making a victory pass at Lexington Junior League. One Athletic man.
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bigdaddy

everready I can go back to the days of Dewey and the telephone an some of his Mongt. stunes. mhw from the low country
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Bigdaddy
The one about the phone still cracks me up ,dewey told me that was a real story,He was a Keeper.Remember Ray Pittman, he was a good Saddle Bred trainer and a good friend of the Walking Horse.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

About the Davis'
Connell runs a boat dock in Estill Springs Tn. & I've met his half Bro. before & he doesn't appreciate Connell using their last name. Theres definately some resentment there.

Red Goochner bought Wa Moo Lang & changed her name. What did he name her? What was she by? What distinguishing mark did she have on her?

Butch Doyle Lewis of Manchester owned Belaire farms when the Leeches were in it. Howard Roberts also used it.
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everready

Which half brother of connell's are you talking about S.Tramp, i would like to get in touch with connell, if you or anyone knows how to reach him.
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everready

I'M thinking Wa Moo Lang's name changed to Miss Fashion Two Twenty, and i thought she was by Carbon Copy, and some mark on her forhead, can't remember what.
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Saddle Tramp

Evrt
Wa Moo Lang was by CC, keep working on the name.
I really don't know the Davis guys first name, only talked to him a time or two. He was kind of belligerent.
Connell was operating Morris Ferry Dock on Woods Reservoir outside Estill Springs Tn.


To all yall out there
Theres someone on another thread using my same handle or password, except his has all lower case letters
"saddle tramp" & he's making some comments that I do not agree with. We have contacted David H. about this and there might be a name change in the future for one of us. Please try to remember theres a difference I'm "Saddle Tramp" not "saddle tramp".
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everready

I 'm thinking Wa Moo Lang was Black and had a LETTER , between her eyes like L or W OR MAYBE R for Revelon, i cant remember. That Davis boy might have been Bill, they were some Friction between those guy's after Bonnie then Roy died.
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Saddle Tramp

Ever Ready
Wa Moo Lang had a series of little stars that someone imagined looked like a "C". Keep working on the name because it was a real choice name. Did you ever see the sketch of her in the Voice when she was a weanling?
When we can uncover our area wide phone book, I will try to find Connells #.

I'm going to church & maybe to the Bellbuckle cafe & wont be back til about 2 central or 3 eastern.
Yall have a great morning! Saddle Tramp
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everready

I'm racking my brain out on this name, it had something to do with fashion two twenty, maybe Fashion's Choice, or Carbon's Star Choice .i cant recall the voice picture of her as a yearling.Thanks on trying to get connells ph. nu.
Everett
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makethecut

Wa Moo Lang"s name was changed to Judges Choice I think. She was by Carbon Copy and had a quarter moon in here forehead if my rememberer is right.
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makethecut
You are right, i don't know why i could not remember that name, as quick as i saw the the name then it came back to me, yeah she was by C.C.,Saddle Tramp was giving me a hint (choice)just could'nt think of the Judge's part.
Everett
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J441

twhlady, do you remember which mare was the dam of both a WGC TWH and a WGC Racking horse?
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sun May 02, 2010 3:17 am

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Mason

I remembered a Dewey story
We we're at the Dixie Jubilee back in the 70s'.Dewey was going to show a roadhorse in that tiny ring...SOMEBODY put Pledge furniture wax on his cart seat. He almost couldnt stay in the cart on those tight turns...When he came out of the ring he was raising cane about that...IF it had been anyone else it would not have been as funny....HE WAS a FUN guy to be around...I've got a couple more storys about him I may put on here later...Do any of you remember what he and Dale Milligan did to the COWBOY STAR at the AMERICAN ROYAL?
Mason
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everready

Mason
I was working for Steve and still going to School in Bell Buckle,but i went to the American Royal Show, i think i was 16 at the time, Dale Robertson was there that year, i did meet him he was walking around in the barn area,he walked by me and ask if i had a cigaret,i gave him one of my Pall Mall's,got his autograph,was he the cowboy star you were talking about.but i have'nt heard that story on Dewey,he was something else ,i know a lot of stories on him,can't tell-em on here.
Everett
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longshanks

J441, was it Delight's Country Girl?
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Saddle Tramp

Makethecut & Everette
Yall done good on Wa Moo Lang. I don't know these answers, but Red Goochner bought him an amatuer hoss and renamed him Mr. Fashion Two Twenty & when he kicked the bucket then he bought another and renamed him Mr. F.T.T., can yall fill me in on the previous names?

Can yall remember Mr. L.M. Mayo an old timer that drove road horses & ponies. He sure leaned out of the cart while taking turns. He owned a Sausage plant in Nashville.
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tms

It was Delight Country Girl, she produced Powerful Threat and the next year produced Delight of Pride.
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jwalker

What ever hapoened to Fashion Two-Twenty and Red. He and his son showed a lot in the 1960's and 1970's and then just stopped. Did he die or just lose interest?
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Saddle Tramp
That big red barn in B.B. is the farm my dad worked and Betty's place was across the street.glad you got to see Hoyt and Jane and thanks for his no. i will give him a call. My wife just found out today, that she has only 3 days off the week of the trainers show, so i dont think we are going to make it to Tn., We dont fly, so we may just go to Disney for 3 days. Sure was looking forward to coming to the show, maybe Celebration.The last time i was in Tn. that old milk barn was still in Bch. Grove, lots of good memerious.
Everett
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everready

Jwalker
I think red's co. Fashion two twenty went out of business years ago,and he got out of the horse bus.I think he died several years back.
Everett
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Big Ed

jwalker
Everett was right about those Joe Webb mercury shoes. Everybody tried them with everything in them. Joe believed in them and I know for a fact that Carbon Copy and Mark of Carbon wore them to the WGC. Don't know if he had any thing in them but those horses wore them. He also invented a Double copper port for WH interchangable shanks that everybody had. It was great for backing a horse off the bit and you had better be light handed.
Eddie
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twhlady

Richard, I cannot be certain but I think Joe Spivey's Racking Horse Champion Powerful Threat was out of the dam of Delight of Pride. Many of the Powerful Threat horses could walk. I do not remember the name of the mare........and because I have not renewed my Breeder's membership, I cannot give you either the name or be sure my information is even correct.......seems like I remember Joe telling me that.......

About Dewey Henderson and Ray Pittman, Red Crabtree, Jimmy Norris, Claude Shiflett, Claued Raines....and all the fantastic Saddle Horse folks........I truly miss the days being closely involved with the ASB........I remember Ray and Margaret from the early days in NC.....and we remained friends until the end.......David actually assisted Beth at shows on occasions while Ray was recuperating from the heart surgeries......and now both he and Ray are gone.....

Ray was quite a showman........and his talents were definitely inherited by Beth..........one of the best horsewomen in any equine discipline.......anywhere.

Do any of you remember Dewey Smith?

Sarah Lynn
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glory

everready I remember Ray and Margaret Pittman.
Margaret use to hold her whip over the rail when she
rode and if anyone was leaning on or over the rail, too
bad.

Mona
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Mason

Someone told me the other day Mrs Pittman is taking care of Donna Moore...MAYBE living there in the house with her?
Mason
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everready

Mona
She almost got me and ray one night, i think it was in Florece, S.C. show. we were watching the class and ray said watch out, her comes margaret, that whip catching some people.I thought ray was going to have to fight this one guy.I think i loaned ray a riding suit that night, he was'nt going to show and for some reason he wanted to show.Ray was a good horse trainer and a good friend.Mona are you still showing?
Everett
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longshanks

Delight of Pride and Powerful Threat were both out of Delight's Country Girl.
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bigdaddy

mason and everready AMERICAN ROYAL is this where they throwed out the dead ducks when the COWBOY START came in with his six guns blazing.
mhw from the low country.
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J441

That is correct. I wonder what ever happened to that mare & if she had other famous foals?
By the way, I didn't renew my breeders membership either.
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glory

Everett No, I no longer show. They tell me I am too
old. I have a grandaughter, Jordan Dean showing
JFK Again. Watching her is much better than showing.
Mona
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tms

Delights Country Girl also produced Deight of Pusher and her last foal was multi titled Pusher's Country Girl.
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Mason

Big Daddy
YOU ARE SO RIGHT...That COWBOY STAR was fit to be tied they said...I think he wanted them thrown in jail
Mason
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everready

What was the cowboy star's name , and what year did that happened.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

All yall
What was the legal first name of the young man that showed Shadows King Cotten, Mack K's Big Story & Gunsmokes Son?
What was his step dads name?
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(Unknown)

Tramp, I don't know his legal first name, but I think his step dad's name was Johnny Gunn.
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Mason

Everready
I dont remember who nor when...But I do remember MY name MOST of the time
Mason
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everready

Mason
You are messed up, i do believe you are a LOT older than you say you are.Are you sure they got your PAPERS right, and did'nt you mixed up with someone else, sounds like you have A THINKING PROBLEM.
Everett
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Mason

I do but I dont think its a problem...its wonderful waking up in a new world every morning.My clock has hands but NO numbers
Mason
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Fri May 07, 2010 10:07 pm

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everready

I think i might be the one WITH the problem,cause i wake up in the same world every day,I AM GOING TO WORK ON THAT.But my thinging as got to change. BUT the first thing that goes is our memeory, so they say, so what was we talking about? By the way that was Dale Robertson, the cowboy, and it was late ,late 50's
Everett
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Big Ed

My memory is great, age hasn't had an effect yet. My only problem is I never new much to start with, so remembering a little, is easy.
Eddie
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everready

Ed i'm with you thats me too.I dont look a day over 64,but some days feel 104
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J441

Saddle Tramp, did you know Jimmy Hicks from Manchester? If so, do you know how he's doing?

twhlady, do you remember a lady named Dr. Stately or Staley...something like that. I think her first name was Linda, but I'm not sure.

Mason & Everready, I remember a show (might have been McMinnville) back in the day that the horses would enter the ring, then stop & a groom would take off one boot. The judges or stewards, don't remember which, would walk around the ring & inspect the boots. One entry in the stake class had two young ladies in go-go boots and string bikinis come in & remove the boot for him. I don't think the inspectors ever knew the horse even had legs...at least that wasn't where their attention was drawn! Do either of you remember this?
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Moonglow66
Johny Gunn was Buddy Hughes step dad. I can't believe that you other old codgers don't know Buddy's first name. I bet Ronald Reagan or Gerald Ford would have known.

Eveready
1-931-967-5370 is the boat dock #.
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Saddle Tramp

J441
The only Jimmy Hicks that I remember was a trainer from Al. & he showed Blues Merry Doll.
But I do know Jimmy Hickerson that use to run with Doug Reed. I think he is doing fine. My son is good friends with one of his nephews & I work with one of his X Bro. Inlaws.
Have you ever seen a picture of a real little boy leading a minature horse thru the Wiser farm sale?
I think this was Dougs son Ron Jon. It was in a Voice.
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everready

Saddle Tramp
I knew Buddy's name was Gerald but i did not know Ronald was in there, so it must have been Ronald Gerald Hughes, are visa-versa, Thanks for the ph. number
Everett
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everready

J441
I dont remember that one, but its sounds like it was a fun night.I remember Dr. Linda Staley, she did Reconstructive Surgery.
Everett
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Mason

Dont remember the girls at the show(?) but when we used boots we took the boots off in the ring...maybe stopped when we started using those dog collar things...but when we used Hinge-boots and/or Bell boots I KNOW we took them off for inspection.If they had as many classes then as they do now a one night show would have lasted a week.And we had saddlebred & road horse classes then.
Mason
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Saddle Tramp

Everready
I just threw Ronald Regan in there to make it a multiple choice. About thirty five years ago, I was bringing in my old boat from Woods Reservoir & Met Buddy Hugh putting in his little al vbot fishing boat. He was by himself, had him a 6 pack & some shorts on & was going fishing. I was sort of started, didn't realalize that trainers had other interest. Here might be a good place to list some trainers & their other interest, but none that would embarrass them or others.
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Saddle Tramp
When i was training horses, my hobby and still is today is song writing, never like to hunt ,fish, etc.just never like to kill things, but had no problem eating things that other people kill.we have a couple of songs in nashville now some artist are looking at, maybe one of those guys will pick one of our songs one of these days, i sure have a lot of fun putting words on paper.When i was a lot younger( Hate to admit it)Drinking was a BIG hobby of mine, but thank GOD in 1992 I SAW THE LIGHT ( ONE OF THE BEST SONGS EVER WTITTEN)I gave that hobby up, and been SOBER ever since.If someone EVER picks up one of our songs, i will put it on here so you all can look out for it.
Everett
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everready

We know Bobby Hughes is Buddys son , BUT what was buddys other son's name by a previous marriage.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Evrt
Don't Know bout buds other son.
Congrats on 15 yrs of sobriety, keep up the good work.
Good luck on song writing, write one on the sobriety thing.

My buddy Russ Thompson collects baseball memorobilia, especially Micky Mantle, likes flea markets & singing karioke with his grandaughter.
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Sunup

Jerry is Buddy's other son. I think he used to shoe horses.
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(Unknown)

J441,
I remember Linda Staley having a really nice horse named Sun's Stradivarous back in the late 60s or early 70s.
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(Unknown)

Someone mentioned trainers and their hobbys. I recall hearing that Winston Wiser had a basketball goal behind his barn and used to shoot baskets a lot.
Also heard that Joe Webb used to amuse himself teaching horses to do tricks.
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old budd

Saddle Tramp; was that the Red Gochner from North East Ohio, around Wiloughby, as I remember? Red was instrumental in forming Buckeye Walking Horse Assn. and Brought Sam Paschal and Setting Sun to the horse show for exhibition. This was in the middle to late 50's - early 60's. Anybody remember Red? Kno where he is now? Heard stories that some sherif in TN was looking for him back then.Red showed quite a few different horses in those days. He was a portly man and rough on his horses.
Old Buddy
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old budd

Saddle Tramp; was that the Red Gochner from North East Ohio, around Wiloughby, as I remember? Red was instrumental in forming Buckeye Walking Horse Assn. and Brought Sam Paschal and Setting Sun to the horse show for exhibition. This was in the middle to late 50's - early 60's. Anybody remember Red? Kno where he is now? Heard stories that some sherif in TN was looking for him back then.Red showed quite a few different horses in those days. He was a portly man and rough on his horses.
Old Buddy
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lola

Red Gouechner is dead.One year he took all of the trainers that were working horses for him on an all expense paid trip to Hawaii.It was the first time that a majority of the trainers had flown on a plane.He started Fashion Two Twenty Cosmetics.Several trainers and/or their wives worked for him.Sort of structured like Avon is today,done door to door.
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everready

Sunup
You are right Buddys other sons name was Jerry and he did shoe horses, but have not seen him in years, last time i saw jerry he was living in Shelbyville
Everett
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everready

Saddle Tramp
On the Sobriety thing, i looked back through some of my material, a few years ago i wrote down the title of the song i was going to do.Here is the title i just have to finish it,(The Night The Lights Went out on Whiskey)one of these days i'll finish it.It will be a tear jerker
Everett
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grits

Hey Everett, your next line could be (The Night the Lights went out on wiskey,I had fallen off the wagon and the crazy horse went home without me.)
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everready

Grits-I like it -I like it
E
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Big Ed

Mason,
Back then most of our shows were AHSA affiliated. When the judge and steward would walk by your horse in the line-up, your groom would lift one bell boot to the ankle and expose the pastern for inspection. Don't recall ever having to take one off, but did have to have them checked by the steward and stamped as approved before the show. Even when we went to chains the stewards had no scales. I remember one steward saying if you didn't have more than 10 links, the chain was OK. I guess he thought each link weighed an ounce. We used a lot of 12 ounce sets before the scales came along.
Eddie
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Mason

Ed I started showing when there were NO rules..Noah,his wife And the kids were fresh off the boat back then...I forget a lot of stuff...I remember a time when we actually took off boots and turned then over where the judge could see the inside of the boot & the horses foot...but since then the rules have changed every few minutes..so MAYBE ALL this stuff has happened...I dont remember...seems nobody can agree on anything and leave RULES alone.......GLAD I'm not having to worry about them..arent you? Stopped by a barn yesterday for a bit to borrow a video about Tom Bass...they said they spend more time on their knees than they do riding. Not SURE if they were PRAYING things would get better or they were trying to grow hair? MAYBE BOTH
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sun May 09, 2010 8:28 am

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Big Ed

Mason,
I think everbody spent more time on their knees than in the saddle. While I was down there I'm sure I was praying for there to be more hair than there was.

Everett,
Back years ago, I think when you were at Marvins, you had written a song called "This old country singer or musician" Something like that? I told you then that it was perfect for the "possum"

Everybody,
I used to walk in to Everett's barn and I would hear George Jones singing, Most of the time I couldn't tell if it was the radio or Everett.
Eddie
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everready

Ed
The song is The Country Musician,I wrote it for my Hero George Jones,but just never could get it to him. A few months ago I met a man that played Lead Guitiar for 10 yrs. with Travis Trett, I played it for him and told him the story behind the song.Gary said the one that needs to sing this song was ALLEN JACKSON, as we are speaking ALLEN JACKSON has it in his hands. I hope he records it, not only for monetary reasons ,because it really is a great song. So one of these days if you hear ALLEN JACKSON singing The Country Musician, you will hear me SCREAMING from Fl. to Va.and thanks for asking
Everett
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Mason

Ed
Everreadys song is pretty good...I've heard it...HOPE it makes him rich & he can retire to Tennessee....Id enjoy having him for a neighbor.
Mason
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Ever Writ
Good luck on your lyrics & do you write your own music?

Everybody
Goocher is dead, had a son named Greg & daughter named Candy. One showed Mr. Ree I think an another showed Judges Choice. Buddy Moore, Albert Lee Rowland & Wallace Brandon were some of his Trainers, Buddy was a salesman. Red started & owned Fashion Two Twenty Cosmetics of Aurora Ohio. At one time he was eating high on the HAWG.
SadlBum
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everready

Saddle Tramp
I do write Lyric's and music,if we can get our foot in the door i have over 200 songs.
Mason
Thanks, if that ever happens nothing would make me happier than to live in that area in the summer and FL. in the winter. You never can tell you and me might break some colts, and relive this thing over again.
And we could call it THE M&M COLT FACTORY.
EVERETT
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(Unknown)

Tramp, Greg Gouchner showed a gelding named Greg's Perfection.
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everready

Do ya'll remember way back when at the celebration they had plenty of room to work your horses. all of us would work our horses up on the HILL day and night. we had better horse shows on that hill than we ever had inside the ring. the trainers that had top Stake horses would not work them until WEE hours in the morning, like 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning,we would SEEK around to watch them. i remember we would not sleep the first 3 or 4 days after we got to the celebration, just drank that coffee and some other kind of beverages and keep on going. now by golly thats when THE HORSE BUSINESS WAS FUN.Everybody could not wait to get to Shelbyville to see one another.NOW I REALLY MISS THAT
Everett
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MoonGlow66
Your right about Gregs Perfection.

Old trainers & grooms
How about some of yall, tell what it was like to go to the American Royal or any faraway big show. I would like to hear about your duties, pleasures and hardships, Sleeping quarters, if yall cooked & slep in the stables, got into fights, got paid above your normal wages.I've read where some men that worked at Milky Way stopped on the way to Chicago & pooled their money together to buy a pack of cigarettes. This is what I like to hear about. I would also like some info & opinions on Mr. Art Simmons the old Saddle Bred trainer.
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Mason

Saddletramp
I was close to Mexico Mo a couple of yrs ago so I drove over there to see the place...Went to Art Simmons old barn...made some pictures & went to the Saddlehorse Museum there in Mexico....they had lots of stuff in there about Tom Bass.If you do get a chance go there....I'd enjoy going back...lots of Saddlebred History in that town.
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workout

Buddy Hugh's name was Gerald "Victor" Hugh. Nakomi Gunn was his mom & John Gunn was his step dad.
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workout

Oops!that should be Naomi Gunn. He had a brother named Ted who was not involved in the horse business.
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everready

Saddle Tramp
When i worked for Steve Hill,and we went to a horse show, we did get paid extra. i think it was 5.00 a day for food, and we set up a tack room to sleep in,and they always had concessions stands open for the groom, and used restrooms and showers on the grounds. That was early on, then for me my first asst. training job,was at Belaire Stables in Chalhoun Ga. under Kenneth Burke then i got to stay in a Motel and eat out in resturants.
Good learning experience, then about 20.00 dollors per day for food. GOOD TIMES HARD, BUT GOOD TIMES
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Workout, Eveready & Mason
Thanks for the info, I remember showers back in the barn area at the C.
Intrested in the old Sadlbum
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Mason

Saddletramp
When I was a kid I used to stay in the stalls at the Celebration.We didnt sleep OR eat much as I remember(to excited)One yr I stayed in one of those campertops on the back of a pickup. It was one of those LITTLE ones you had to crawl in and sleep,you couldnt stand up.(HOT NO AC)I had an old Armycot I slept on. I parked it beside the old warmup ring,and stayed there ALL week..TRY that today.Youd be towed before you got the engine turned off...dont think I even had one of those 2 dollar parking passes.They are STILL 2 dollars arent they ?.Didnt sleep much but stayed up watching horses work out at night....Learned a lot by doing that.The yr I stayed in the back of the truck WAS 64 I think....remember stalking Joe Webb back then..trying to catch him working Carbon Copy...funny a few yrs later he and I were good friends and HE would ask me questions about training...back in 64 I thought he had ALL the answers.AND he did most of the time...I respected his knowledge more after I really got to know him.Being young and green was more fun than being old and set in your ways...I guess ALL us old timers THINK the old days were the best....I cant get excited over much STUFF...someone asked the other day about hobbys ...My wife and I play with a Bluegrass group..she plays the upright bass...I play a mandolin & guitar...we play MOSTLY Gospel Bluegrass and TRY NOT to sing through our nose.We play at picnics Churches ,Goat ropins' & such.Even played a few FUNerals...we say we try & put the FUN back in FUNerals
Mason
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linda faye

Parker does still live in Bell Buckle, last I heard from Betty she was in Florida. Parker's son Rick ownes Reeves Saim Pharmancy in Murfreesboro, bet he could fill in the gap. Betty used to ride on the property across from her paretns farm-- the former owner was a friend and let her ride there. At the time Webb School did not want horse pop on there land--such a shame might have helped back them.
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linda faye

Yep it is nice except for the subdivision that keep popping up I live on Liberty Pike and they built one on Hatchett Hollow road and those guy seems to think they can drive 70 miles an hour on our little county road and run us over. City fellows coming to the county
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linda faye

Now David Casey not that "old" but still mean as ever. HE will have a birthday in April as well as celebration another wedding anniversity to Lois.

He will celebrate his 80th birthday in April---I know that he would love to hear from all of you old folks

Casey Jones
P.O. Box 7
Bell Buckle, Tn 37020

I have talked to Lois about have a little get together for him, she still has not told me if I could or not--His son Dewayne lives in New Mexico and would like to do something but as we all know Casey is funny about these things---took me two months to talk him into his 50th wedding anniversity party back in 1996 but once I stated it he had so much fun---Mr. Mason imput from you as you two are close. ( I am just the other daughter).
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BUBBADOG

I have been off of the computer for a few days and have just missed a LOT! All the talk about the Davis family and the Gochneaurs - Connell Davis and I were very good friends - I sure would like to talk to him.
This thread is the most fun - it's nice for the old folks to have something that we can still do!
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everready

Another thing i remembered about the celebration years back, on the last Sat. night of the show, if you had a colt or horse you wanted to sell are still looking to buy one, In the warm up ring where that big tree use to be, the ring was full of all kind of horses still for sale.they would be hundreds if not thousands of people watching the horses. I have bought and sold many horses on that night.crowds would start gathering around 3:00 in the afternoon, eating donuts country ham sandwiches, drinking thier FAVORITE beverage and having a GREAT time, but was SAD the SHOW was about over. If you did not get to see that, you missed some of the best times in THE HORSE BUSINESS, I SURE AM GLAD I GOT TO DO THAT.
EVERETT
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Mason & Saddle Tramp
You all will remember Mr. Streeter from Wartrace, he was a elder black gentleman, very knowledgeable about the horse business, was always trading KNIVES, and loved that SUFFER water as he called it. When i was training at Tobys he would come by and i loved talking to him, and ALWAYS dressed nice, loved that SOUTHERN accent.
Everett
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BUBBADOG

The saddest times of my life were on Sunday afternoons after the showgrounds were empty - makes me want to cry just thinking about it. And another whole year stretching in front of us till they filled up again. After all - that's all we lived for wasn't it?
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BUBBADOG

Who was the elderly black man who sold the wire (clotheshanger) sculptures?
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everready

Cissy
I remember the man selling clotheshanger sculptures, but i dont remember who he was.And you are right about being sad to see eveyone leaving on Sun. after the show was over, i never felt so empty riding thru the show grounds on sunday afternoon.our family had a reunion the monday after the celebration, so i did'nt leave to go home until tue., thats when i livied outside of Tn. I MISS IT, MISS IT, MISS IT
Everett
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BUBBADOG

Me too! Shoot - we used to ride around those showgrounds on Sunday till it was plumb pitiful looking for anything or anybody - just to keep the "CELEBRATION" alive a little while longer.
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jwalker

I remember in 1972 sleeping in the back of a box truck that my Dad owned on the Celebration grounds. Thought we'd get thrown out but no one said a thing. We didn't even have horse at the shown. After the stake class Saturday night I went to Donald Paschal's barn and watched them shoot photos of Handshaker's Delight. For this poor old Kentucky boy I thought I had died and went to heaven!
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Fri May 14, 2010 10:11 pm

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Mason

The man that made stuff out of coat hangers was Vanoy(not sure about spelling) Streeter....he is dead now and is fairly well known in Folk art circles...He gave me one I treasure...OF Super Stock. Someone told me some of his pieces were in the Smithsoian(cant spell)
Mason
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Saddle Tramp

ALL OF YALL REMINISCERS
Vanoy Streeter (Clothes hanger wire sculpter) a nephew of G.W. Streeter (the nice old man that you would have liked to be your Granpa).
G.W. always wore a tie that Marry Ella Burk now has.He traded knives & watches. He showed colts against white men at Wartrace in the 40's.
He told a man one time that he was easy to grab ahold of but hard to get away from.
Vanoy was the skinny vallet of the mens restroom by the warmup ring. The womens restroom had those ladies in the white dresses.
My wife & I saw an action WH & rider that Vannoy had twisted up sell on ebay for $600 about 6 years ago. I have also slept in a 61 GMC pickup & camper up by the shoeing shed. Watched horses worked early in the morning, ate donuts & drank oj for breakfast. Made enough scalping tickets in one show to pay for the rig & other expenses.(early 70's)At the end of the show, you couldn't tell what color the truck was for the dust. I sure had a good time
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everready

G.W. Streeter thats the one i was thinking of, and you are right Saddle Tramp he always wore a tie.
Everett
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longshanks

I was looking at some old copies of Saddle and Bridle today and came across some pictures of Go Boy's Black Jack. They were taken early to mid 60's. Was he as good as he looked in the pictures?
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everready

In my opinion, he was a walking son of a gun, great back end lot of head motion
E
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Mason

He was a great two & three yr old, honestly cant remember much about him after that....He and Carbon copy were the same age.
Mason
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everready

Mason
I remember Donald won the 3yr. old Stake then took him to montgomery, and Johnson Mcdonald had a 3 yr.old by Shadow that wore Blackjacks butt out, but they still tied Donald, yea after that he was just another horse
the reason i remembered that , i was working with j. mcdonald in Orlandl, for Mr. Bradshaw,is name was Shadow's Rover, and that was as good as he ever got.
E
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Saddle Tramp

Black Jackers
Owned by Capt. Self (navy) Mobile Al. ridden by Donald Paschal & full bro to Black Rooster ridden by Carlton Pitts.

I went to Handshakers Delights Barn Party , snatched one of his tail hairs & still have it with his picture.
About a YR ago I could have bought some of Black Angels tail hairs.
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lucky

I have enjoyed this thread more than any since the message board started. Mr Evvert, I haven't had the pleasure of meeting you but have heard alot of good things. Used to enjoy hearing Dick Myers talk about you and David Welsh and Fred Black. I enjoy reading about these former show horses and all people that were connected to them.
thank you all
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(Unknown)

E, Didn't Johnson McDonald have a son that trained horses?
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doctor

Mason and Everett,

Keep up the reminiscing. I enjoy reading them. I have not had so much fun since I was a college student/ aspiring trainer and slept in the back seat of a 1955 Ford at the "65 Celebration, took bird baths at the restrooms under the stadium, and ate donuts and chocolate milk three times a day. That year I managed to get my picture in the Voice Magazine. (Actually, I was in the background of a picture of Doug Wolaver and Triple Threat after winning the championship. I was sure that photo would put me in the big time.) Where has all the time gone!
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everready

Moon glow66, yea his name was Gary Mcdonald, have not heard from him in years, but johnson died a few years back.I think they were org. from Ky.
Everett
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everready

doctor
After we started talking on this chat site, seems like it was just yestarday that we all were having so much fun.The 60's , 70's 80's were the best time to be in the horse business(as for as REALLY enjoying the people)Just wish we could roll that ole clock back to then for just a little while.
Everett
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horsetrainer

i wish i had grown up back then sounds like alot of good times im really enjoying reading about it keep it up
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Saddle Tramp

Ever Writ
Heres a stanza for ye

He stopped stepping high today
They took his name off his door
Soon they'll bury him in clay
He kicked the water bucket today.

SadlBum (I don't plan on quitting my day job)
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longshanks

One of the other things I found very interesting while looking through those old Saddle and Bridle magazines was a 3 page article about how the horses needed to be cleaned up and how out of hand the soring was and how everyone needed to just stop using inhumane training methods. Basically the article said that people who sore their horses were finally about to have their day of reckoning (June of 1968). I guess it just goes to show that the more things change, the more they seem to stay the same.

Mason, how many dawgs are you feedin now? The last time I asked (several years ago when you were still in Rockvale) you said that you didn't want to count them. The Jack I got from you is the best dog I've ever had. She's about 11 years old now and at this moment is stretched out on my leather couch like her name is on the deed.
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workout

You all just keep talking, I love this forum.
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Longshanks
I told someone the other day...I dont know how many dogs I have...I never count them...afraid someone might ask me in front of my wife..then she would know how many I have.Just kidding they have been VERY good to us,esp since we retired.I have some Border Terriers now...NO RUSSELLS...got where everyone that had a dog house started raising them. I had some good bred stuff but you cant compete with junk...esp if buyers dont know (or care about) the difference.
Speaking of the OLD articles in the magazine...I'll bet 20 yrs from now you'll read the SAME thing thats being printed today...same song thirty-second verse...Aint nothin gonna change much I'm afraid... We will always be the country cousin nobody wants to claim kin to.We've built a monster we cant kill.
Mason
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twhlady

David.........just a thought about your 'monster' comment. I'll have to take issue with you...the horse is not the 'monster'.........maybe some of the folks are the monsters????

According to the referenced Saddle and Bridle article in 1968......aren't we already in the 39th verse of the same old song?????

I truly do think that the integrity remaining in the entire industry lies only in the horse itself....Our great breed has proved it's mettle for many years. The very survival indicates our breed's value and credibility.......and it's endurance.

Cissy Bubbadog.......
You spoke about riding around on the Sunday after....just looking for someone and not wanting to leave for home.........I can remember many years...thinking as we rode out of town headed south...."only 49 more weeks and we will all be back together again...."

AAHHH...the times, they are a changin'.....steadily more and more. Actually, we've grown old together surrounded by the 'love of a horse.'

Sarah Lynn
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Mason

I agree the MONSTER is what has happened... not the horse!
Mason
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everready

WORLD GRAND CHAMPIONSHIP IN HEAVEN

The gate swings open,Enters WHITE LIGHTNING
Carrying old glory, And the weather was frighting,
But he was Enjoying,Makin that stride
Giving DEWEY ARNOLD the world's greatest ride

As he entered the ring ,Under the big light
coming thru the gate was Mr. SAM and DELIGHT
To my surprise, Who was about to enter
It was MARVIN WILSON riding THE SENATOR
The ring was filling ,But not quiet yet
Here comes VIC THOMPSON riding OLD JET

Then a loud noise, And a whole lot of chatter
In comes WINSTON riding GO BOY'S SHADOW
The judge was about to ask, the horse's to walk
Here comes STEVE HILL riding OLE TALK

Things were heating up,And about to have fun
In comes FRED WALKER riding MIDNIGHT SUN
Ring was a little damp,But it wasn't sloppy
in comes JOE WEBB riding CARBON COPY
The brothers are showing, And oh what a night
In comes MR. DONALD and HANDERSHAKER'S DELIGHT

The gate was about to close
They were singing a hymn
In comes FLOYD CAROTHERS riding STROLLING JIM
The horses were shiny, And slick as a rock
in come COL. HAYNES on HAYNES PEACOCK

The crowd was trying ,To see what was the matter
In came CHARLIE BOBO and SENSATIONAL SHADOW
Riding in glory ,To the worlds biggest fan
In come CARL EDWARDS on OLD GLORY'S BIG MAN
Time was getting close, It was a ground shaker
Coming to the ring was Mr. BUD and REBEL'S PRIDE MAKER(RPM

Trainers and Horses, From near and far
Comes PERCY MOSS riding WHITE STAR
Kentucky's favorite, And my number one
Comes CLAUDE BROWN and B. MAJOR WIL SON
Horses were stepping,Heads high as the world
In comes URBAN SMALL riding CITY GIRL

The gate was then closed, Horse's ask to flatwalk
Crowd was so loud, Couldn't hear yourself talk
Rider's were Master's,Horse's were GREAT
What a fitting way, To end this BIG STAKE

BY--Everett Majors and Friends


JUDGE'S FOR THE CLASS AND OUR HALL OF FAME
S.W. Beach, Toby Green, Albert Lee Rowland,Gerald Buddy Hugh,David L Bledsoe,Joe V Clayton,Billy Boyd,Jimmy Waddell,Ralph Hensley,John Young, Larry Webb,Horace Young, Jack Warren,Charlie Weddington,Joe Gibbs, William Bill Sloat,Harold Wise,Red Nix,Zollie Derryberry,Joe Urquhart,Charlie Martin,Ray Campbell,Mack Tenpenny,Ray Tenpenny,Willard Tenpenny,Claude Shaw,Buddy Kirby,Bob Burris SR,Shorty Branscum,Frank Witherspoon,Digby Palmer,Elmore Brock,John Price,Clarence Goodson,George Witt,Herchel Talley,Elwood Howland,Curt Kovalik,Tony Yokley,Jimmy Ellis,Red Durham, G.W. Streeter,Herman Dot Warren, Harlen Hayes,Tommy Crowder, Joe V Clayton JR.,Eddie Wiser,William Bill Sledge JR.,Jack Warren,Jim Babb,Sam Caldwell,Bob Waggoner,Paul Walington, Les Nelson, Jim Dixon,Paul Turner,Harold Kennedy,French Brantley,Jimmy Jo Murray,Roy Davis, Bonnie Davis, Kenneth Burke,C.C. Johnson,George Lynox,Wirt Harlin,Sid Maddox,Kenny Price, Neil Robinson, Carlton Pitts,Jack Montgomery,Dan Arnold, Millard Wilson,Curtis Hamilton,Pete Arnold,Lightning Gregory,John Lindahl,L.Frank Roper, R.D. Keene, C.W.Bradshaw,Junior Pierce,Johnson Mcdonald,Jim Beasley, John Day,Marvin & Joyce Humphries,C.C.Turner,Doff & Mrs. Callaway,Jack Short,George Henson,Emmit Guy, Jimmy Richardson, Cliff Gillespie, Gillie Orr, Bob Jennings,R.E. Broome,Tom Bohl,Edgar Poe,Ed Ezell,Bright & Bert Hunter,Albert Dement,Ed Pluck Miller,James Brantley,Rollie Hern,John & Mrs Miller, Buford Manley,Bud Messick, B.F. Wilson,Charles Ramsey,John A.Headrixson, Robert Bob Huges,Brent Damron,Scope Carney,Ike Bull,Resse Smith,B.A.Skipper,H.L. Worrell,Gov.Jim McCord,Eddie Bryant, B.H. McChesney,Herb McClain, Charles Lowery, Syd Houston,Geraldine Livingston,Courtney Hall, Pat Kimbrough,Ernest Ernie Berszette,Red Gochneaur,Mac Carter, Flip Cook,Rudy Meyer,David Greer,Mr. and Mrs. Frank Parnell, Mr. and Mrs. Floyd Pursell,Fred Black,Lee McMichael,Ellis Parker, Ernest Smith, Larry Gribble,Tom Reynolds,Tom Brown,Kenny Nelson,Dave Curlee,Felix Smith,Jack Delay, Thomas Eaton, Bud Bryom,Dr.Dewitt Owen, Jim Farrar, Mark Farrar,Mousie,Tom Meek, Sam and John Meeks,Janie Hugh,Ben Green, David Kranich,



THE GREAT HORSE SHOW IN HEAVEN.
World Grand Champion's Only(That has passed on)
Trainer's and Other's that Contributed To this Great Horse, (that has passed on)
This Is A Salute To Those Have Gone Before Us.

everready

Sara
As we are talking about the celebration being over ever year, Joe Van Clayton had on his sign at Wiser Farm Sale((LAST ONE OUT OF TOWN, TURN OFF THE LIGHTS))
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
You are much better at poetic verse than me. I just changed Possums most pop song around a little.
I bet you and mason & maybe some others on here could team up & write a dilly.
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Saddle Tramp

Is there any other thread on this board with more pages than this one?

everready and others,
Are yall talking on any other threads that I might be interested in?
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Red Ace

How many miles did you put on a car/truck just riding up and down between the barns. My daddy bought me a convertible in 1952 and he said I put more miles on it at the Celebration than I did the rest of the year
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sun May 16, 2010 8:06 am

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Mason

Saddle Tramp
I have gone to some of the other treads but ALWAYS come home to this one...ALL they want to talk about is something thats ACTUALLY going on NOW...I could give a HOOT about all that stuff...BEEN through the same PAIN they are going through too many times too many yrs ago to be concerned with it AGAIN for the 55th time!...NAW just choose to stay here with my old folks and talk about yesterdays memorys.I am amused at the YOUNG'ANS' that get on here with ALL the answers...been there thought I had em once....found out theres MORE questions than answers, in this GAME..I watched Rosanne Barr(spell ck) last night... she was interviewed on a comic show...she said she used to love to fight and argue....now that shes older, instead she just says ..."Well thats an interesting point you have!"...GOOOD ANSWER they dont know if you believe what they said or not
Mason
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everready

Saddle Tramp
This is the only thread i chat on, I do have a thread on here also its WALKING HORSE TRIVIA, its about a trivia game my wife and i made in the mid 80's.go back to page 5 ,look up WALKING HORSE TRIVIA GAME,thats when i started that thread.
Everett
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everready

Saddle Tramp
go back to page 62 and check out the additions to the poem, i will keep adding to it.
Everett
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everready

Folks go back to page 62, and read the poem i wrote titled--The Great Horse Show In Heaven--it started out to be just a cute little poem, then i got to thinking of all THE GREAT HORSES and THE GREAT TRAINERS that have passed on. I did shed a few tears doing this, I hope you enjoy it. I even put the judges at the bottom of the poem.
Everett
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twhlady

Speaking of shedding tears, Everett...........All I have to do in order to shed a few tears is to come here and listen to all the people we know, talk about all the places we've been, reminisce about all the great horses...even to closing my eyes and recalling all the great passes down in front of the west grandstand and around the south turn...........all this makes my eyes get all misty and a big lump comes up in my throat.

I spoke with a long-time friend today. The subject of Mr. Jimmy Joe Murray came up.......and his great contributions to the estabilshment of our wonderful breed. Mr. Murray was significantly involved with researching and identifying the foundation horses and beginning the stud books. His gorgeous old home still sits overlooking Lewisburg, and in later years was owned by the SW Beech family. The Murray Farm Sale was held there for many, many years..........and the horse sale office was located in one of the old farm out-buildings that dated to pre Civil War days......

Sarah Lynn
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Saddle Tramp

Ever Ready
Youins shore got a way wif wurds, that was plum purty & I,m serious.

Fellers
Thanks for the thread info.

Question
What WGC did Ellen Metzer & Gottlieb Koenig buy after he won?
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everready

Triple Threat
E
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Saddle Tramp

Ever Right
Yes it was TT

Question
What well known old trainer from Woodbury, Married a saddle horse woman, whose mama had owned a WGC who was raised by f*n*y Bramblet & was shown later on by a man whose son owned a bridle shop near where the Breeders Assoc. is located?
The Questaineer
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everready

Saddle Tramp
I'M GUESSING-Toby Green and S. W . Beech
E
After saying that i think Toby was married too a lady that had something to do with Morton Salt Co.and i think that lady was Laurie Lou Brandon's mother
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twhlady

What about Charlotte and Jimmy.........haven't seen or even heard about either of them for quite a while.
Any of you have any information?

Sarah Lynn
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Saddle Tramp

Ever Ready
You have hit on some right things, but have not mentioned the well known old trainer from Woodbury, who is still alive & worked for solitude.
KRM
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Red Ace

Floyd King worked at Solitude but I have no idea if he is still living. Also Bud Seaton worked there
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Red Ace

Laura Lou's Mom was Jessie Green. She had an ASB harness horse. Back when they were out there going towards Lynchburg. Close into Shelbyville. Also Laura had some great Saddlebreds and rode the tail off of them. One of my favorites was Melinda Stonewall, a three gaited mare. Then she had Nashville Cat, a five gaited gelding with Marvin Conatser. Won a class at Lexington with him if I remember correctly.
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Red Ace

For all you history buffs. I have a 1960 Celebration program in great condition. A few classes marked but it is a true collector item. First one to post giving their email address gets it free. I will contact you and get in the mail. According to the classes I marked Go Shadow Boy with Jimmy Waddell up for Mr Frank Parnell won the two year old class. B Major Wilson won the Amateur/Owner Championship and Handshaker won the stake.
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workout

I can barely remember Jimmy & Charlotte Green. They were quite a few years older than me. Now that you mention them, I also wonder what happened to them.
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everready

Sara
Jimmy Green passed away several yrs. ago and charlotte, still lives in Shelbyville, she had one daughter that died a few yrs. ago.
Everett
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everready

Saddle Tramp
I think it was Bud Seaton also, that was from the woodbury question.if you ever run in to him say Hi for me.
Everett
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everready

Go to page 62 scroll down to the poem, and if you can think of any pass WGC'S and thier riders that the both of them has passed on ,put it on the chat here and i will add them in also,and any trainer that has passed on we will add them as judge's
Everett
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horsetrainer

Red Ace id like that program horsetrainer06@yahoo.com
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Saddle Tramp

All of Yall'uns
Wallace Brandon Is the answer to my Question. Bud was from Goodlettesville I think, but is at Milton now. Chester is dead.

If any of you know who John Henry (racer) is, he's 32 today.


Mason
I have 30 or 40 old saddle bred mags (30's & 40's)
that I'd like to trade for TWH stuff. If you would be iterested let me know.
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Mason

I'll go through some of this junk (thats what my wife calls it)and see what I have sometime...BUT I AM looking for a good 1939 Blue Ribbion.IF you know of one in good shape I'd try and give MORE than its worth.
Mason
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(Unknown)

Mason,
There was a 39 Blue Ribbon on e bay last year and it brought over $500.
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longshanks

Everready, I think old Ralph Hensley should be a judge. He threw his leg across many good ones and was no doubt the definition of a colorful character.
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Mason

I bid on two last yr... one brought 450 something & the other brought more than that I was the SECOND highest bidder on both them.THOUGHT there was no way I wouldnt get the second one..LIKE I SAID I WOULD GIVE MORE than one is worth...I have all the others (several copys of most)up probably through the late 80s'...dont really care about them after the 80s.
Mason
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longshanks,
I agree about Ralph. He showed a pony at the first Celebration. I read an interview with Wink Groover, I think it was last year, and Wink said Vic Thompson got him his first training job with the Jones family in Canton Ga. He said he showed their horses for one entire season and hardly ever got a ribbon. He left there and they hired Ralph Hensly and Ralph took that same string of horses and won five classes at the Celebration the next year.Ralph was a top trainer and never at a loss for words.
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Fri May 21, 2010 11:25 pm

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everready

Longshanks
Ralph Hensley was a great trainer and good friend, he is now listed as a judge
Everett
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everready

Does anyone know where Percy Moss is still living, i think i heard he passed ,a few years back.How about Jimmy Hollaway?
Everett
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everready

What trainer showed Haynes Peacock to win the Big Stake and in what year?
Everett
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grits

oh oh I know this one it was col. J.L Haynes in 1940 and 1941. (only because I read it on walkers west)do I get a prize for the right answer....
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E, Trick question. Haynes Peacock was to the WGC by his amateur owner Col. J.L Haynes in1940 & 1941.
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everready

grits
You get a great BIG THANK YOU,his name and horse will go in the show on page 62 of The Horse Show in Heaven.
Thanks
Everett
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(Unknown)

E, Last I heard Jimmy Holloway was still in Possum Neck, that was a couple of years ago.
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(Unknown)

Here's hardball trivia question. How many horses were reserve WGCs before they became WGCs?
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everready

Thanks moonglow, how about Percy?
E
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(Unknown)

I think I heard he had passed on, but I'm not positive.
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master

16 horses were Res. grand champions before they won the big one. I believe 3 others were Res. after they had already won it.
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broomman

2nd before:

Main Power, The Black Night Shade, RPM, The Pushover, Flashy Pride (twice), The Pusher, Ebony's Mountain Man, Shades of Carbon, Ebony's True Grit, Delight's Bummin Around, Handshakers Delight, Sensational Shadow, Setting Sun, Merry Go Boy, Triple Threat (twice), Black Angel

2nd After:

Suns Jet Parade, Old Glory's Big Man, Stollin Jim, Midnight Merry, Mack K's Handshaker

Hope I got it right!

There are about three that were 2nd twice and never won.
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(Unknown)

Master & Broomman 16 is correct and you got them all.
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everready

What was wgc RPM reg. name
E
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(Unknown)

His original name was Rebel's Pride Maker.
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(Unknown)

Name the WGCs that were also 2 y.o. WGCs.
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(Unknown)

Broomman, Black Angel was also a reserve WGC after she was WGC.
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Saddle Tramp

To Ralph Hensley admirees
He got his start with Winston Wiser.

Question
He showed Strut My Stuff in the pony class & campaigned Mr Freewheel for the WGC. He imitated Elvis in Vegas as "Orion" & was shot to death, in the parking lot of his convenience store. Was this Pap Crutcher, Kenny Womble, Jimmy Ellis, Bob Reid or
Sylvester Skierkowski?
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everready

Jimmy Ellis he was also a good friend of mine
E
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everready

Thanks moonglow, i got him in my poem
E
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linda faye

Can anyone tell me--maybe Mr. Mason if Casey Jones won any major classes at the Celebration? I know that he showed and trained all of his life until he moved back to Bell Buckle in the late 80's. He and my father were best friend and I can remember going to his barn in Unionville and also the one in Flat Creek.
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broomman

Reserve twice and never won:

Sun's Big Shot, Mister Sensation, Midnight Mac K, Eb's Black Diamond, Ebony's Tiome Around, Pusher's Twist About , Handshaker's Professor

More than I first thought.
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Saddle Tramp

Everett,

Were those other guys trainers or backup singers for Orion?

Didn't Jimmy show True Grit too?
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I think Jimmy had him before Bud Seaton got him.
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Saddle Tramp
Those other guys were horse trainers, I know all them well.
E
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Big Ed

Ralph Hensley was a great trainer. He was a good friend and was very good to me. Gave me a lot of stuff and advice. I believe his wife was Winston Wisers sister.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

Big Ed
Now I didn't know that Ralphs wife might be Winstons sister. I have never heerd that before & would like to have that confirmed for my archives.(memory)
Saddle Tramp
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Big Ed

For the life of me I can't remember her name. I ate at their table many times. But I'm 95% sure she was Winston's sister. Only people I know that could verify would be her daughter Nicole or Judy Martin.
Eddie
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ED
Ralphs wife's name was Garneeta (gar)i dont remember if she was winston sister, but i do think they were related.Two daughters and i think one son, joanne or judy, jonny, and for the life of me i cant remember the other daughter, and ED i know her name as good as i know my own, (nicole dont sound right)she was married to mike kaskassy(mispelled)and the last time i saw her she was married to a horse trainer and cant remember his name(getting old i guess)come to think about it , it was joanne was the other daughters name,OK lets do it over ,JOANNE, JUDY, AND JOHNNY,WE all loved ms. gar
Everett
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Big Ed

Everett,
Your right, Mike was married to Judy. Their daughter was Nicole. Thanks on Gar.
Eddie
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(Unknown)

Semms like the last time I saw Judy she was married to a trainer, Hankins maybe?
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everready

Yep moonglow, it is Hankins.
E
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everready

Saddle Tramp
click over to 62, and see if i missed any WGC and rider that have passed on to the the great show in heaven, if so let me know and we will keep adding to and get all them in, and any trainer that has passed we will add them to the judges list, thanks i've had FUN and a lot of MEMOREYS doing this.This is a salute to those who have gone before us
Everett
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longshanks

Does anyone on here know or remember Coy Claxton? He was one hell of a man. He gave me my first drink of good corn liquor at the Woodbury horse show twenty or so years ago. He assured me that if I could get through a pint of it that I would grow hair on my chest like a briar patch. I haven't seen him in years and don't know if he is still upright.
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everready

longshanks
I do remember and know Coy Claxton, the last time i heard, he was still riding horses, on Fairfield Pike in Shelbyville, Tn.He did like that white lightning.
Everett
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EverReady
I looked at your poetic verse & have put my seal of approval on it. It is very good.But You need to change Ed to Floyd Carothers. Ed was a breeder/trainer from Franklin. Floyd rode Strolling Jim. I am so glad that you mentioned Billy Boyd & John Young. Billy would be proud of his boys. Tracy has a good job with Waterfall & Brett trains for Charles Gleghorn.Horace Young & Jack Warren might be a good fits too.
Do any of you think John Young looked like Marty Robbins? He had a good 15-2 hoss one time.
Mason, I know some people in Springfield with a 39 BR, I have been trying to get it for years, I think if you showed up at their front door that you could buy it, they just can't think to bring it to this area. I have got one now & you are welcome to go for it! I will not name them on this site but will give you a hint & if you know them, this hint will ring a bell. Pink House
Saddle Tramp
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(Unknown)

Tramp, John Young's good 15.2 horse was Threat's Cargo. I broke him and he came into this world a good horse, John just made him the best he could be.
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J441

Ralph once asked my dad & I if we had some of "the right kind" of trail horses on hand. We only had two. We brought them to his barn and let him have them on consignment. Ralph had three good racking prospects and wanted me to try them. Since I had only brought a two horse trailer, we took two of them with us & I told him I would return toward the end of that week for the third.
Ralph left with a truck load of pleasure horses for California the next day. He called me from the road and said he had been informed that his barn had burned down. I made good money for him on the two horses I took and sold them quick, and Dad literally gave him one of the horses we brought to him (Ralph had taken both and sold them in CA). I'll always wish I had been able to pick up all three horses instead of leaving the one colt that wound up dying in the fire. Ralph rebuilt a metal barn later on the same place.
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Mason

Saddletramp
TED?
Mason
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workout

I remember watching Jimmy Ellis showing Mr. Free Wheel. He was a really nice horse.I remember that he always rode him hard, right up to lineup I also remember hearing that he was Orion in Vegas. I, however, had no idea that he had been killed. How tragic.
Also, the Judy Hankins you all mentioned is the pretty lady who does all the artwork. The Show Dog and Horse portraits, also the art work on purses & some furniture. She always has a display at Ashville.
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Saddle Tramp
Thanks, i knew Mr Ed Caurthers , also but i got Mr. Floyd put in poem.I always thouht John y. look like Marty Robbins,i could tell you some crazy stories on knowing john for so many years.And Billy Boyd was a good friend also, every time i would see him, he said i have a new joke ,you have got to hear.he was funny so sad he left us like he did.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Evr
Urban Small & Melody
Percy Moss & White Star & Claude Brown & Major Wilson.
SadPal
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Saddle Tramp

MASON
Mr House is/was a HS football coach
son is pinky, all I know, sorry.
KRM
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BUBBADOG

Everready - if we started telling John Young stories on here we would wear out our fingers, wouldn't we? Lots of them might not be appropriate - he was one of the funniest people I ever knew - there wasn't much he wasn't "game" for was there? By the way - my computer time is seriously limited lately and when I do have the opportunity to get on here I am always reassured to see that all the oldies are keeping this thread alive. It's good therapy for me. Mason - earlier you commented that you had been on other threads but couldn't bother with them - me neither - just seems kind of futile doesn't it? Been there done that - you're right about the dog breeding business too - when a breed gets as popular as Russells, as long as there is access to t**ti**e and ovaries they become "breeding quality". My primary breed since the late seventies has been rottweiler - talk about creating a monster. I'm embarrassed to mention them in some circles. I don't breed anymore - haven't bred a litter in over ten years & probably will never breed another one.
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(Unknown)

I talked to someone today and got the story straight on Gar Hensley. She was Winston Wiser's niece. Also heard that Ralph was the only person that could ride a horse to suit Winston.
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Was that Melodys Melody and urban small
E
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Big Ed

moonglow66
Glad someone was able to find out for sure about Ralph's wife. Somehow I got it in my mind that she was Winston's sister. Glad that they were, at least, related. This means I'm only "partially" crazy.
Eddie

E
Melody Maid
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Ed
I was thinking Gar was kin to Winston, but did not know where.Have you checked the poem on page 62,if you are anyone else that can remember any more WGC and riders that are not in the poem please put the info on here and we will add them. And any trainer that has passed thats not on the judges list, we will add them also, i know they are more trainers i just cant think of them yet,this will be a tribute to all our friends.
Everett
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everready

ED
How do you spell your GRAND DAD'S last name Bob WAG.
E
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Fri May 28, 2010 11:32 pm

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everready

Cissy
You are right about John Y. there's not enough time to tell all that stuff, there is a story about John and a MONKEY he once bought, every time i think about it i laugh until my sides hurt, he was one of a kind.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
Melody Maid is who I meant, but Floyd Carothers might have won with her, You ought to use City Girl to be safe. Spell Carothers like this. Harold Wise, Red Nix,
Zollie Derryberry, Joe Urquhart, Charlie Martin, Chester Seaton, Ray Campbell, Mack, Ray, Willard Tenpenny, Claude Shaw, Clarence Blanks, Buddy Kirby, Pap Crutcher, Bob Burris, Shorty Branscum, Shorty Thomas, Frank Witherspoon, One armed black man and Toby Green, Digby Palmer, Elmore Brock, John Price, Clarence Goodson, Carl Edwards, d**k West, Curt Kovalik, Troy Yokley, Jimmy Ellis, George Witt, Herchel Talley, Elwood Howland, Charles Lowery,Orris & Norris Shaw, Bud Dunn, Red Durham & G.W. Streeter for sure.
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Did Shorty Thomas pass away, who rode city girl and what year did she win, urball small rode which WGC
E
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Saddle Tramp

Evrt
Floyd C. won on MM & Urban S. on CG in 44. I'm only guessing that Shorty T. and some of the others are dead. I think one of the Shaw twins is still alive.
Harold Sherrill, his wife & X.B. Haynie should be listed. A man name Preach from Va. Have you heard of these & the ones above?
Sadlbum
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everready

Saddle Tramp
I deleted some that we are not sure, look at that list again, and be sure we are right
E
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bigdaddy

Add to judges list Herman "Dot" Warren' Mr.Harlen Hayes mhw from the low country
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
Your list looks good to me. Others might want to add some. I hope we have the correct Yokley. We might consider Billy Sledge Jr., Eddie Wiser, Little Joe Vann Clayton, Dude Crowders son & others. All of these died tragically.

Thursday I got to take a road trip on my job & went to Huntsville Al. When I got to Meridianville I went by James K Taylors Quarter Horse farm. I think he won the amatuer WGC on Midnight Moonglow in the mid 60's.
He must have switched to Quarter horses soon after.
His farm has been built up around & is worth a fortune.
I also went by Frank Rambo's Oakwood Acres, where Melody Maid & City Girl lived. A man bought the place about ten years ago & spent millions on it. He finally went bankrupt. It looks like something out of a magazine or Hollywood. You could't imagine the gaudiness. Theres a street in Huntsville thats named Max Luther drive. He was a saddle bred man & he has a brother in Arab named Neil thats about 100 if he hasn't died in the last couple years.
SaddleTramp
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broomman

Mr. Herman "Dot" Warren and his wife were two of the nicest people you could ever want to meet. They use to come to my hometown of Benton, KY back in the 60's to our horse show. Just a nice man! Also, Petie Warren of Denver, TN..but not sure they were related.
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Saddle Tramp

Brooman
Dot Warren showed, I suppose the most famous breeding horse of all time. Can you name him?
Saddle Tramp
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everready

Pride of Midnight
E
SORRY YOU HAD ASK that question to someone else.i'm bad
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Check The Poem out on pg. 62, I changed a few words and put some,,, in, i will keeping playing around with it, till its plum purty
E
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Big Ed

Everett,
Waggoner
Eddie
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everready

Thanks Ed, check it out on pg 62
E
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Big Ed

Thanks Everett,
How about Buddy Kirby, he was a great horseman.
Eddie
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everready

ED Buddy Kirby is in the judges list, if you can think of anyone else let me know. was it Troy or Tony Yokley that has left us ( car accident) what was pipers full name has'nt he passed
E
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everready

Is Petie Warren still living
E
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Big Ed

Everett,
Tony I think? Paul Turner. What about Carlton Pitts? I thought someone told me he had passed.
Eddie
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everready

Ed i hav'nt heard about carlton, maybe someone on here can give info on carlton and petie
E
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twhlady

Dot showed Pride of Midnight......last competition was at the Columbia Spring Jubilee in 1970......Pride was a four year old and the Harlin family decided to retire him to stud.........

I reported Pride's "homecoming" for the old Sunday Journal newspaper.........

Mr. Wirt Harlin shared with me on that Monday morning many years ago his hopes for the future of Pride of Midnight in the breeding shed.......and the reason for the propensity of the great stallion to leave an indellible mark...........forever.....on the TWH breed.

Sarah Lynn
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(Unknown)

I think Carlton passed away several years ago. How about Kenny Price, didn't he die in a car crash back in the early 70s. Don't forget Neal Robinson.
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready & other inquieries
Carlton Pitts Has been gone for at least 5 yrs. I don't know about Petie Warren. Isn't anyone gonna argue about Prides Greatness in the breeding of top show horses. Thats putting him above Wilson Allen, Midnight Sun, Merry Go Boy, Suns Delight, Ebony Masterpiece, Triple Threat, Senator, Pusher, Generator, Gold Coin, Halleluja, Major General & Pidley.
Eveready your just like a little boy in class, the teacher asks a question, you know the answer & you can't wate your turn. You did't even hold up your hand & go ooh ooh, did you? I will be glad to critique your masterpiece again.
Sadpal
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Big Ed

moonglow66,
Kenny Price did die in a car crash. Maybe late 68-71?
Didn't know Neil had died. What happened?
Eddie
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everready

Saddla Tramp
I know i get caught up in this site and love it, this can get HABIT FORMING. Me personally I think Ebony, and Suns Delight was two of the best in my era, I have'nt heard Pidleys name in many years, i bet a lot of people never heard of him, he was a pretty son of a gun,as i have always heard about half of SHADOWS colts was by PIDLEY,I worked for a while for Jack Montgomery, i broke.two shadow colts, for the life of me i cant remember the names, Paul Smith had one of them and did very well with, and Jack Darnell got the other one, I just REMEMBERED Shadow at Midnight with Paul Smith, and Shadows Nomad with Jack Darnell, Dam I'M good
Everett
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(Unknown)

Neil died of cancer a few years back.
I agree with E, Ebony and Sun's Delight get my vote for the best breeding horses of the past half century.
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Saddle Tramp

Evret & all
The memoranium poem by Evret is very good, brings back alot of memories, to bad only us few have seen it, maybe it could be added to & tweaked a little more & someone could encourage David H. to print it in the report or have it read one night at the Celebration.
Evrt., the statement that you made about you being good reminded me of a spotted SH that Berry Coffey owned, add Berry to your list, if you don't mind.

Really, I just put Pidley in list to be funny. I forgot about Shadow & should have inserted him.
Just think, Pride sired some great horses & some of them sired many great Horses. But theres 4 or 5 that could be argued as the best progenators ever.

There were at least 3 great show horses that died early that might have gone on to win WGC status.
Janes Spirit (Doug Wolaver)
Ebonys Threats Professor (Ronald Young)
My Magic Marker (ken Wulf)
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sun May 30, 2010 7:57 am

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J441

Everready, John Young once told a group of us railbirds that you "could make a twenty penny nail nod it's head"!
I remember John's pet monkey...were you thinking about the time John was driving across Monteagle and the monkey kept getting into the ashtray? John slapped the monkey's hand and the monkey jumped into John's face screaming with a handfull of John's beard on either side of his face. One heck of a fight broke out but John won out in the end.
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everready

J441
That is the same monkey story,(LOL)ever time john told that story, my sides hurt for a week,you just had to hear him tell it.John could make a horse do the right things, when he was younger and felt like working.
Everett
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Mason

John worked with me at the Stable back around 74-75, dont remember exactly ...Lee Hudgens, Franks brother was with us at the same time...WE had lots of FUN and had a stable full of good horses.What we didnt TRY hadnt been thought of......some of the best times of my life were back then...didnt have two nickels to rib together but I was living the dream!Thank God for letting me do what I THOUGHT I HAD to do......wouldnt take NOTHIN for the Journey...but HOPE I NEVER have to go back
Mason
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broomman

Pride of Midnight
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everready

Mason
One year at Montgomery, John decided to see how much pad they could get on a horse.I think a farrier from Ga. name wesley, they went to shoeing early that morning,by late afternoon you would'nt belive it if you did'nt see it with your own eyes.they had put pads stacked 24 inch's high, he kept nailing pads together,John said lets see what that does to da hoss,john climed aboard and clucked,we all turned our heads, the hoss never moved,john said we got to much pad on him,then they took it all off, TRUE STORY.Somebody told john that morning he had to much pad on one of his horses, he said you ain't seen nothing yet, come back this afternoon.He was just doing it for fun, but that was john.Would'nt the USDA have fun with that one.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Evrt.
We need a place for Millard Wilson, Dan Arnold & Curtis Hamilton in the Poem & Hall of Fame.
Sadlbum
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everready

Thanks Saddle Tramp those guys are in, Dan , Millard, and Curtis were all GREAT blacksmiths,they all shod horses for me at one time are the other.I added Mr. Pete Arnold in he was dan's father ,he shod for Steve Hill for years, i'm sure you heard of him.
E
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(Unknown)

Does anyone on here remember Neal Clark? He was a nephew of Fred Walker's and I think grew up around Bell Buckle.Used to train horses.
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MINI ME

Was talking to a friend of Petie Warren in NOV. He said Petie was in bad health and had moved to be with his daughter.
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twhlady

Everett:

Please do not forget Charlie Weddington.......a great friend of the horse and to the industry. Our barn on the Celebration grounds was adjacent to his.....and both he and David died around the same time. Charlie always had extremely good horses........mixed it up with the best of them........and his list of customers was fantastic.

I remember the swing he always brought to the Celebration to hang on the barn.......We always had the coffee pot going......and lots of food...Charlie had the swing......and we all sat around eating and sharing great fellowship......Some of our customers..Benny and Allison Gray from Birmingham always brought a huge bar-be-que pit. We cooked loads of food and almost everyone came to partake of the vittles and fellowship.

We even had street dances........doing the bop and jitterbug....to the sound of the 50's and the 60's......Folks from 5 to 85 came to our celebrations during THE CELEBRATION.........

Sarah Lynn
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bigdaddy

Mr.Sam and Setting Sun
Mr Sam was acting like he was sick had his private Dr. with him day and night. Dr. C.C. Chittwood stayed with him all week. Mr.Sam would work Setting Sun at night when everybody was at the Celebration. Everday people would come over from Shelbyville to see how Mr. Sam was doing. car would have the lot full in front of the barn. They wanted to Mr. Sam. Mr. Sam to sick to leave the house. showed one round and just almost fainted. Got qualified for the stake. Keep more people coming to the barn. Just about run out of parking area around the barn. Showed in the big stake won it. on the way back to the barn had a mircale cure. they is history. They is all for this part of the store. When come with Dr. Chittwood part and his pay. I want to if everready and mason know the rest of the story.

mhw from the low country
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oldfilly

How I'm enjoying this thread!! Mason, my husband and I were frequent visitors at your barn in the era when Lee Hudgens worked with you. We were always treated so nicely even though we couldn't have paid the training if somebody had given us a horse. Didn't matter to you all . . . we really had a good time coming to your barn everyday during Celebrations when you had the Super Stock. We've never forgotten those good times and your kindness and THANK YOU for them. Your welcome mat was for everyone. We saw Lee several times after that at various horse shows, but haven't laid eyes on him now in many years. Think he moved to Florida? What is he doing now? He was absolutely the neatest man I've ever seen. He could work all day and still look like he just arrived ready to begin the new day.

No doubt this is the best thread on the message boards. I turn the computer on just to read all the interesting things from "the good ole days". Please keep it going and I will keep reading! Thanks for great entertainment!!

THANK YOU twhlady for starting a great thing!!
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workout

The story I heard about John Young and the monkey was...that the monkey didn't let anyone smack him & get away with it. That John had been fussing at him about getting into the ashtray and about the third or fourth time of getting him out of it, he reached down & smacked his hand. And that was all it took. I heard that John did wreck & they had to go get him. They said he came walking into the barn carrying the monkey & he (the monkey) still had both hands full of John's hair.
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everready

I was training for toby green when john got the monkey, this is now john got the monkey. He stopped at a gas station to get gas,this guy at the station had some work done on his car, and did not have enough money to pay his bill, john gave him enough money to pay his bill and he gave john the monkey.I can still see john tell that story about the monkey getting into the ash tray.PRICELESS--YOUR story is what john tells also
Everett
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everready

Sara
Charlie is in there and so is your your loved one and my friend, David.if you can think of anyone else let me know
Everett
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everready

bigdaddy
Thats the same story i know too, Sam was a master.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

bigdaddy
Thats the same story i know too, Sam was a master.
Everett
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Mason

Saddletramp
Dont KNOW who you are talking about(don B.)
My email is dfmjjm@bellsouth.net
Mason
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broomman

"Epitagh for a Trainer"

My barn and trailers
are reclined

My legs too have lost
their spring.

My hats are dusty
my boots decayed,

And in the closet
my old suits hang.

My saddles are spent
The leather's gone

The last whoa spoke
My ride is done.
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Mason

Thank you for the kind words...Lee is NOW my neighbor...he lives between Wartrace and Bell Buckle,nearer Bell Buckle. He is making furniture now. I see him once or twice a week. I hang out at his shop in the way.He is one of the BEST friends I've ever had.
Mason
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everready

Mason
Tell Lee i said hello, i,ve known him many moons myself
Everett
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Sara
I remember all those street parties people had at the celebration, they were no stangers every body just joined in. About ever year some stable hired a band, and everybody was welcome, went on to daylight, eating ,drinking and dancing, and some would ride horses all night,if you are reading this and did not get to partake in any of those great times,you missed the best time to be in the horse business.
Everett
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everready

Has anyone heard from Charles Massey, are what he is doing now?
E
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Moonglow66
About Neal Clark i was rasied in bell buckle, but i dont remember him.
E
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:02 pm

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BUBBADOG

Everette - I remember that monkey well - he resided at Larry's for a while - terrorizing everything and everybody that his chain could reach - my oldest son is still scared of monkey's on account of that one. THEN - after I left middle tenn and moved to Ga, I went to Boyd Hudgins & lo and behold - there was that same damn monkey - he made the rounds. Wonder what ever happened to him?
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everready

Cissy,the monkey was at larry's the last i heard of him, he was a nutty one,i have not seen boyd in years ,hope he 's doing ok.
Everett
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BUBBADOG

E - who you calling nutty? Larry or that Monkey?
I haven't seen Boyd in years - I hope he's doing well too.
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everready

The monkey he was crazy , now i dont know who made him that way!!!!!Thanks thats the way i meant to say it.
E
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BUBBADOG

That monkey was also MEAN - he damn near snatched Susan Hunter baldheaded at the Murray Farms Sale one night! She was driving too - same thing that happened to John Young.
Did you ever hear about John's beagle training method?
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Saddle Tramp

Mason
We shot you an email about Don B. We have a cheap provider & it might take a couple days to get there.
Let me know if you get it. Have you heard of Murray Cason & his horse Stonewall King?

Have any of yall old time experts heard of Pop Geers?
He was born in Lebanon Tn. & trained standard bred pacers & trotters in the late 1800's & early 1900's.
He drove some of the Hal & Brooks horses that the Walkers are derived from. I have a book that he wrote in 1906. He drove the first pnuematic tire sulky & paced the first horse under 2 minutes. He made champion trotters out of pacers by loading them down with weight in the front end. He has a huge monument somewhere in Columbia Tn. Earnharts Brooks is where lit up TWH's get their color. Wilson Co. Tn. has put out some very good trainers in the TWH, ASB, & SBT&P
assoc's. C.A. BoBo for one & Garland Bradshaw another.
Peter the Great, Dan Patch & Giovanni were on early papers. SaddleTramp
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Big Ed

Who was the only horse and who was the rider to win the 15.2 & under WGC and WGC? At least through 1994, not sure after that.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

Big Ed
I'm guessing Joe Webb & Mark of Carbon
SadTrmp
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ginwin

Saddle Tramp, just thought you might like to know that Pop Geers old farm is now a subdivision with very nice and expensive homes in it. Its name is "Geers Place" and is located on Hwy 70W in Lebanon. Wilson County also lays claim to Betty Bradford Freeman, breeder of WGC Santana and also WGC Ironworks. She has one of the finest broodmare bands in the industry today. Betty was born and raised in Lewisburg, but has lived in Lebanon for about 45 years. She is battling lung and bone cancer right now and needs the prayers of everyone. Thank you.
Ginny Winfree
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workout

Mr. Mason,
I also appreciate ASB Horses very much. A good horse is a good horse, whatever breed, color, etc. and I try to read the trot.org forums like a book just about every day. Somewhere I saw the transcripts from the trial with the Jacksons & Deena Lopez & Wild Eyed & Wicked. What do you think will ever happen there?
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ED
Saddle Tramp maybe right, if not,then i would guess
Vicky Self and Flashy Pride, I am thinking F.P. won the under Two championship, then won the Big One
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Ev & Ed
I think Tim Gray won under 2 with Flashy & WGC with Vicky.(I really think Bud beat Docs High Trib with Flashy, but I wasn't Judging) Joe Webb & Mark would be the only ones to win both divisions, if they did. I think Mark won in 78 WGC.

Have any seen Walter Brennan in Back Home in Indiana?
It has Walkers, Saddlers & Racers in it, A good old movie. Gone to Work
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grits

it is a time honored tradition to have a white horse present the American Flag at the Celebration. What is the process of finding a horse and how do they select a rider? Can anyone name all of the horses and riders.
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Big Ed

Saddletramp,
You are right. Joe and Mark. Remember their slogan?
Mark, Mark, he's the one!

Anyone know the name of the minature horse or pony that Carlton Pitts had that he kept with Valiant Son and always took to the shows as a companion for Son?
Eddie
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Grits
I saddle the White Flag horse for 3 yrs.
White Lightning OWNED and Riden by DEWEY ARNOLD of Shelbyville,i can't remember the names of the rest of the Flag horse's, i think one or two of them was by Mountian Man,and Bud Seaton has been carring the Flag for several years, i think, i have not been to the celebration for the last 8 years
Everett
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Mason

Everready
Did you get the Bluegrass Gospel tune I sent you this AM? CK YOUR EMAIL
Mason
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everready

Mason
Resend it, i did'nt get it,emajors@tampabay.rr.com
E
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linda faye

Mr. Mason what year did you win at the Celebration---
I was there but can't rememeber the year--- I am also froM Bell Buckle but do not remember a Neal Clark--maybe he was from the Wartrace area??????
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Mason

1977
Mason
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everready

Mason
Did you resend the Bluegrass song,i still have not got it
E
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Mason

THOUGHT I HAD...Let me know its a gooden
MAson
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howarddavidl

David,I remember that win in 1977, the same year we celebrated your 40th birthday(LOL)
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Mason
Check your computor and see if you sent it to
emajors@tampabay.rr.com, I still have'nt got it,now you got me all fired up about this song, you know i love Bluegrass Gospel Music
Everett
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Mason

Howard ...WOULDNT THAT MAKE ME 80 something?FEELS about right...my time do fly when you're high!
Mason
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Mason

Majors
ARE you SURE you have a computer? I've sent it twice...Maybe you need to change the oil in that thang!
Mason
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:08 am

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Big Ed

Everett and anybody else,
Haven't been to Celebration since 1993. Still go to some local shows, about one a year. If you haven't seen the horses of today, check this out.
www.walkerswest.com/legends.htm

Select 2004 WGC "The Black Night Shade" when this page opens, scroll down below pictures to where it says "See The Black Night Shade in Action" Click and watch the 30 second video. Respond to what you see.
Eddie
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Mason
I think somemins wrong bud,my emails working,still aint got it, surely it did'nt go hong kong
E
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Mason
GOT IT-- We'll Not Be In Here Long--Loved it,Sounds like something you ,me and some of the local guys would sing.I try too write a few Country songs, but Bluegrass Gospel is my favorite music, I will listen to that one a lot, thanks
Everett
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Mason

Everette...We are starting to work on that one.
ED please email me I LOST your EMAIL address.Must have slipped out when I was washing my computer. I want to answer your question about that film clip .
Mason
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ED
My My on K.S.,Out on Parole, and ENCORE, thats what I'M talking about.
E
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Saddle Tramp

Flag Hoss Enthusiest
White Wilson with Toby Ray Green
White Lightning, Dewey Arnold (Fell off one night)
Snow on the Mountain
Snow Man, Mr Forgey From Winchester Tn owner
Now Counterfeit Dollar, owners McCloys, Ok City
Was tradition for former WGC rider to be on Flag Hoss

Mason & Everette
How about Charlies nephew, Tom Brantley & New Road, He Is a fine fiddle player & has a good band.

My Favorite Gospel BG bands, Primitive Quartet. Doyle Lawson & Quicksilver
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Saddle Tramp
Why did dewey fall off White Lightning? Tom Brantley is as good of fiddle player as anyone ever played the opry,Did dewey pass away, i think i heard that a few years back, if so he needs to be in our hall of fame.
Everett
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Big Ed

Mason, email was sent.Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

Evrt
I think the horse Jumped during the prayer, Its been a long time, but my wife remembers Dewey falling off too.
I'm 99% sure he has passed on.
How about these for the hall of fame, Emmit Guy, Jimmy Richardson, Cliff Gillespie, Gillie Orr & Bob Jennings.

Do any of yall remember Mrs Dennis Eakin, she was a grandmother type that played the organ at one night shows. She would play things like, things go better with coke, hyms & ther things. She has probally been dead for years.

Questions
What actor that played "Jim Hardy" in the tales of Wells Fargo tv series (60's) came to the Celebration in the 70's?
What actor/singer did Bud Dunn win the 15-2 WGC on his horse & what horse was it? SadBum
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Big Ed

Ed & Patsy Bruce. Can't remember the horse's name. Pride bred I think, Eddie
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(Unknown)

Dale Robertson and Ed Bruce.Ita A Matter Of Pride.
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Saddle Tramp

Big Ed & Moonglow
Yall dun good. Dale Robertson played Jim Hardy and
Ed & Patsy Bruce owned Its a Matter of Pride.Who else showed this horse?

Name the ailment in the neck area that can be caused by a bad Horse collar?
What other name is given to a cribber?

Curius in Tn.
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Big Ed

Cant' remember his name. Little short guy, smoked cigars, think he had a nickname. I believe he got the horse turned down one night at celebration, which was a major embarrasment for the Bruces, and they took out a full-page ad in WH Report appologizing. This may have wound up or caused them to rethink there WH involvement.

Wind sucker?
Eddie
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Big Ed

What horse with a 4 year show career was defeated only once in his life, a reserve at celebration, went on to win WGC next year?

What horse was only shown at the celebration the year he won the WGC?
Eddie
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everready

Saddle Tramp
I was handling White Lightning for Dewey that year he fell off,Dewey got just a little nervous before carrying the Flag, so he would partake in a few before show time,that year he got a little more nervous than usual.He sure was a nice fellow, ran a tire business for years.
Everett
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makethecut

Was the horse with the 4 year career Bummin Around?
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(Unknown)

Shaker's Shocker's only apperance in a show ring in 1966 was the Celebration.
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Big Ed

makethecut' Bum is right,Eddie
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Big Ed

Moonglow66
Didn't know about Shakers Shocker. Ebony's Mountain Man was the one I was thinking of. Eddie
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C. Biscuit

? for Mr. Mason. Why were you the only trainer successful with horses sired by Scat Man? I remember him, can you tell us about him. Just a kid at the time so I didn't make any of the breeding decisions. My father wouldn't talk about using him. We went to a colt man named Jess something. He had 6 of the most beautiful yearlings I ever saw, never heard of anyone making one except you. Thanks in advance. C.
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lola

There was also Scat Man's Tom Cat,Scat Man's Rebel,Scat Man's Kitty Kat,etc
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Mason

C Biscuit
I dont know the answer to that one...just got BLESSED to have a couple of good ones by Scatman I guess..... Stock and Sport were out of the same mare...she had had other good colts by other horses..I AM a believer in MARES ....MORE in the MARES than what you breed her to.
Scat man being a pony wasnt the stallion to breed to ...that was most folks opinion.I'll have to admit he was pretty good to me.I had a few others by him that were decent horses.

Mason
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ED
Thanks for the WalkersWest site,that shows all the WGC'S, i have been answering all the questions from memeory, and guessing on some of them,i gave all my horse mag's and walking horse reports,blue ribbon books to a friend when i quit training in 1987.As you know i was at Fred Blacks in 87, showed Pride's Rare Delight at the International then sold him to Eddie Tuck closed my stable and moved to Florida.In 1995 opened a training stable here in Fl. for about a year, then a colt fell with me one day and messed up a couple of disc, and that was the end of my training. I do miss all the fun we use to have, but would not go back thru all this stuff thats going on today.
Everett
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BUBBADOG

Oh Good - Make the Cut is back - I was beginning to fret about him. Hey Tony!
Does anyone remember a mare named Miss Rhythm? I am looking for a picture of her. Can anyone help me out?
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senator 69

Hey Everett,Jr. here,I've had a ball reading all of this and thinking about all the GREAT times we all had.
Sarah Lynn,THANK YOU for starting this thread it is GREAT.
Can anyone tell me the registered name of Mr. Ree the colt owned by Fashion Two Twenty.also who trained him as a colt.
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:58 am

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There was a Mister Ree whose original registered name was Copy's Shadow.
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everready

Jr, good to hear from you, hope you and your family are doing well,are you still going to the shows here in Fl.I have not been to one in years
Everett
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senator 69

Hey E,yeah I still sit on the board of Sunshine State.My wife has been bed ridden for about 18 mo. she was in a nursing home for 6 mo. but she is back home now.hopefully she will start getting better and start getting back into physical therapy soon.
Also a couple of months ago ya'll were talking about Red's horse that died in the warm up ring at the Cele.It was the black horse Mr. Fashion Two Twenty that died.Red got the sorrel horse that he changed the name to Mr.F.T.T. as a replacement.If I remember right he got him from Preach Fleming.The sorrel horse was mean as a snake.
Jr. Cottle
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Mason

Bubbadog I started her(Miss Rhythm) and sold her to someone in SC..Lighting Gregorys customer...Guy W(?) whats his name that owned Setting Suns Delight yrs later was with them ...thats when I met Guy... think I do have some old pictures of her in some old Blue Ribbon mags....she shook her head so hard(back in the day!)she would throw the bridle off over her head if you didnt tighten the throatlatch so tight it was silly looking.That was in the days it counted if they shook their head
Mason
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everready

Jr, we will keep you and your wife in our prayer's,I
think Mr. F.T.T. did come from preach, and you are right he was mean.I do miss showing and seeing all our friends,But i would'nt go thru all this stuff trainers have to go thru today,no way can it be any fun.
Everett
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BUBBADOG

Mason - you right bout most of Miss Rhythm (Maude) it was my daddy that bought her - from Lightening - you right about the head shaking too - shortly after we bought her she dropped a dead foal in her stall - shocked us all to death since she was poor as a snake -from that day on she was hot as a firecracker (temperamentally) - I showed her when she was 4 (I think) to reserve behind Rock-a-Bye Lady - had never cantered her before - and you sure couldn't touch her on her shoulder - ain't no telling where we would have wound up. Before I went in that big ring I asked Huck what to do if she didn't canter and he said "Pray" - I won't ever forget that class - she was nearly perfect and I held my breath till it was over. That winter at Montgomery Claude Brown drove his car into the middle of the ring one day while we were working her and tried to buy her - a year or so later after my daddy got sick and we moved the horses to Mack Motes, he wound up with her - I was one upset spoiled child - after Mr. Claude died Joelle Rogers Stern had her. Well after all that rambling - I only have one picture of her and I would sure like it if I could come up with another one. Be glad to PAY (not much though)someone for one. Also - does anyone know if she ever produced anything?
Mason - I sure didn't know that you started her - she could stroll, couldn't she? Couldn't much come up past a flat walk and was a tad weak with the front legs but SHAKE that big old ugly head of hers!
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BUBBADOG

Mason - Guy W - was Guy Whitener from Newberry SC - Bill Sledge worked for him - he also owned Merry Boy's Secret and Invasion's Persuasion and a cute little mare but I can't remember her name.
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senator 69

Thank you for the prayers good buddy.I know what you mean about the state of affairs in the WH industry .It's like Mason said we been fighting this fight for way too long and it seems like nothing ever gets any better.One thing I will say though is as far as I can see the industry is way more compliant than what the HPA was written for.But that is for another thread.
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ED
On that WalkersWest site i clicked on Encore & Out on parole, now thats the kind i remember i liked.
Everett
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Mason

Bubbadog
I had forgotten about her not having much comeup...She never had any swing.. I just walked her into what she was doing...thats probabluy why she never had any speed...she was trotty as best as I remember as a yearling. She belonged to Clyde Jernigan.I was renting stables in his barn at that time and was working her for part of the rent..she had been running in the pasture with some colts before I started her...she probably stayed a few days too long and thats why she had that colt...I had forgotten about that.
On another note J. Cash emailed me and said Chester Gillespie worked that horse for Ed Bruce....he said Chester died of cancer 10-12 yrs ago....any body remember Ed getting PUNCHED in the warmup ring?
Mason
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master

Everett,
Loved the way you always wore your hat. Worked through high school with Eddie Tuck and remember Rare Delight [ small chestunut, nice blaze and a lot of walk]. Mr. Mason as around the age of 10-12 came to your barn, me, my father and Henry Moore [ the owner of Another Masterpiece ] You were a complete gentleman with how we were welcomed, showed us "Stock" and treated Mr. Moore with great respect even though at that time his horse was the compitiion. Mr. Moore always had a great deal of respect for The Super Stock . As he would say" that horse to beat is that stock horse ridden by David". He was such a fun-man for a kid that got to hang around barns like yours and many other great trainers [ got to ride Another Masterpiecre on his retirement day that morning at Ronnie's ]. Thanks everyone for the memories.

David
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Everready
You need to rework your trivia game and bring it up to date. Maybe some kind of board game. Tommy Blackwell and I had a crown gather around one night in Atlanta at a Bar bq place when you first came at with it could answer a lot of the queston on it then. But don!t think I could do so good know. Alot of ride has run under the bridge.
mhw from the low country
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bigdaddy

Rewrite last sentence
To much water has run uhder the bridge.
mhw from the low country
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Big Ed

Mason'
Chester is the guy I was talking about. It was a major deal when he got their horse turned down at Celebration. The Bruces had done a lot of boasting, somewhat judgemental and that really bit them in the butt.
Eddie
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everready

bigdaddy
We are planning to do a new version of THE TRIVIA GAME,as soon as possible,it was a lot of fun to play.
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Picture
What was Miss Rythm by? Theres a picture of her & Misses Sterne in a 70's Blueribbon that Les Nelson shot & it was one of the best touchup jobs that he ever did.
As an exibition at the Celebration, would yall like to see two Road Horses go at it in the ring?
SaddleTramp
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Mason

I think she was by Shadows Hot Shot...another thing I was reminded about by Charles Bobo...she was the FIRST Walking Horse to wear a breaststrap.....She was longbacked and what we called wasp-waisted and the saddle would always slide back on her...MR C.A. Bobo started riding and showing her with the breaststrap...we thought it was the strangest looking thing....but we ALL finally started using one.
Mason
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grits

why are all the girths white.
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grits
The girths were always white from the start,they were made of web like material and had to be polished with white shoe polish, spent many of dollars and a lot of time polishing those things. i guess back in the 80's the started making girths out of patent leather, then they were white, black, brown and a few other colors, but white still looks best( my opinion )
Everett
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sable812

what were some of the horses owned by John Miller.
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Go back to page 62, i've tweaked the poem,see what you think
Everett
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Mason

John Miller owned several good horses..I only worked ONE for him ...I had Delights Double Clutch as a coming two yr old and sold him for Mr.Miller to Hobert Potter...Billy Gray & Ralph Hensley had several horses for Mr Miller that were above average...Delites Bumming Around being one of them.
Mason
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(Unknown)

I asked this question a few days back and no one answered. I'll try again. Name the WGCs that were also 2 y.o. WGCs.
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Mason

DONT KNOW ...BUT VERY FEW.....SHOWS to go YA .....what happens to those what I used to call "Cold Weather Wonders"....too much pressure put on two yr olds ...and MOST of them fizzle out either BEFORE or after their two yr old year.
HARD for me to see WHY folks get SO excited and spend BIG bucks on a coming two yr old, when MOST of them never make it to the show ring or slide down hill soon there after..MY OPINION ....NOT GOSPEL
Mason
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everready

Moonglow66
I think Carbon Copy, and Ebony Masterpiece was two of the WGC'S that also won the 2yr Championship
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:34 am

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(Unknown)

E, those were two of them. There were two more before them, and three after them.
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makethecut

Mr. Miller owned Delight's Time To Deal, Ebony's Hacksaw, Bum's Bootlegger(later changed to Bum's Showboat), Delight's Caper just to name a few.
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Big Ed

Moonglow66,
Prides Secret Threat, Merry Go Boy, Delights Bummin Around,Midnight Merry, Prides Final Edition, Puttin on the Ritz.
Eddie
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(Unknown)

Ed,Merry Go Boy, Secret Threat and Ritz are correct. E got Ebony and Carbon Copy. There are still two more.
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Saddle Tramp

Moonglow66
Merry Go Boy for sure, maybe Armed & Dangerous and maybe Out on Parole were 2 yr old WGC.

Pick out the ones that were never the WGC, Prides Generator, Midnight Mack k, Ebonys Time Around, Prides Gold Coin, The SkyWatch, Pride of Midnight, Spirit of Midnight, Angel Go Boy, Miss Rythm & Bay and Bad. Hows about yall old pro's letting the novices have a shot at it first, please.
SaddleTrump
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
I've just reread your "Ode To The Past" on page 62 & It gave me cold chills & goose bumps all at the same time. You really did a good job of tweaking it this time.
SadBum
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Big Ed

Moonglow66,
Setting Sun and I think Prides Final Edition was also.
Eddie
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everready

Thanks Saddle Tramp, I would like to invite everyone to click on page 62 on this thread, and read THE POEM we did on PAST WORLD GRAND CHAMPION'S AND THEIR RIDER'S that have passed on,And a SALUTE TO THE MANY PEOPLE THAT HAS CONTRIBTUED TO THIS GREAT HORSE THAT HAS PASSED ON.WE WILL KEEP ADDING TO THIS AS NEEDED, HOPE YOU ALL ENJOY.And if we need to add someone now just put it on this chat, will add the names to list.
Everett Majors
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(Unknown)

Tramp and Ed, Setting Sun and Out On Parole were the other two, along with Merry Go Boy, Ebony,Carbon Copy,Secret Threat and Ritz.That's not a long list and I agree with Mason, not many two year olds go on to make it over the long haul.
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Saddle Tramp

Anyone
OK before page changes, anyone pick a winner or?
Confusius (SadTrmp)
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Big Ed

Saddle Tramp,
None of those horses were WGC.
Eddie
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Big Ed

Moonglow66,
Didn't Scott Benham ride Final Edition to the 2 yr old.WGC? If so he needs to be added to the list.
IN MY OPINION, Secret Threat, Final Edition and Ritz were all much better as two year olds than when they won the big one. I thought Secret Threat as a two year old was the best 2 gaited horse I ever saw.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

BigEd
You Know the WGC's & you are right.
SadTrmp
Ps I've had people to ask me when Generator won. By the way, that raises a goodun, who won when Gen was 2?
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Big Ed

SaddleTramp
My guess is Mark of Carbon or Threats Supreme
Eddie
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(Unknown)

Ed, You are correct, Final Edition was a 2 y.o. WGC, so that makes a total of eight.He was also 3 y.o. WGC.Secret Threat was the only one to win as a 2,3,4,&5 y.o.I thought the first time I ever saw Gold Coin as a two year old he was as good as he ever was.He certainly had a lot of natural talent and was able to pass it along as a sire.
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Moonglow66
Only ever worked one horse by Gold Coin. a customer bought a Gold Coin comming 2 off of Eveready. Good up front, wear the bridle, average behind and I looked for a long time to see if he even had a heart. Had a great name tho, "Spectacular Coin". I was partial to that Ebony blood. Worked a lot of Genius stock. Most of them were smarter than the average trainer, and I was no exception. It's a wonder I'm not bald from scratchin my head.
Eddie
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BigEd
I don't think it was Supreme, could have been Mark, But if someone will tell me when Gen would have been 2, then I will look at the next yrs BR & let yall know
what horse it was. Did Charles ever show Gold Coin?

EverReady
How about R.E. Broome, Tom Bohl, Edgar Poe, Ed Ezells,
Bright & Burt Hunter, Albert Dement, Pluck Miller, James Brantley, Rollie Hearn, John Miller, Buford Manley, Bud Messick, B.F. Wilson, Charles Ramsey, John A. Hendrixson, Bob Hughes, Brent Damron, Scope Carney, Ike Bull, Reese Smith (died Showing), B.A. Skipper Jr.,
H.L. Worrell, Auct. & Gov. Jim McCord, Eddie Bryant, B.H. McChesney, Herb McClain, Charles Lowery, Syd Houston, Geraldine Livingston, Courtney Hall & Pat Kimbrough.
Use any or none at your Discretion
SadlPal
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Tramp, it was Mark.
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senator 69

What trainers worked Wa Moo Lang(Judges Choice) and Copy's Shadow(Mr.Ree) as 2yr. olds for Fashion Two Twenty Stables?
Jr. Cottle
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I think Wink had Judge's Choice. Maybe Albert Lee had Mr. Ree?
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MoonGlow66
I have no doubt about you being right on Mark as a 2 yr old & Wink on Judges Moo Lang, I think Russell Pate might have worked Mr Ree before Albert Lee did. Joe Webb, Russell, Dickie, Jackie & Jimmy specialized & did real well with Copy colts. Name 2 bays by Copy that were real good.
Tramp
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J441

Does anyone remember Mr. Rico and John Young?
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senator 69

Saddle Tramp and Moonglow,your right Wink had Judge's Choice and Russel Pate had Mr. Ree.I had the pleasure of working at Fashion Two Twenty from time to time for several years.I actually worked there before it was Fashion Two Twenty with my good friend the late Buddy Hugh.
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everready

Senator69
Did you read the poem on pg. 62, if not read and post your comment
Everett
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j441
I do remember John & Mr. Rico A high headed walking fool, dont remember what ever happened to Mr. Rico.
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Ralph Hensley showed a horse named Mr. Rico back in the 70s, I think he was training in North Ga. then.
Bays by CC, was the little bay Charlie Bobo showed named Call Of The Wild by CC? Jimmy Holloway won a class at the Celebration with a bay gelding named Copy's Powerhouse.Also seems like there was a bay named Copy's Delight.
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lola

Copy's Frolic
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makethecut

How about Copy's Sensation and Vandy Starnes as a bay Copy horse.
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senator 69

Everett,that is a great poem,it really makes you think about the ones who have gone on before.I know for certain that Red is gone.I saw his obit in my hometown paper from Ohio a yr. or so ago.
Keep up the good work,Jr.
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everready

Jr. how do you spell Red's last name,i want to get it right
E
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(Unknown)

I think Copy's King Pin was a bay.
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Mason

We had a BAY Carbon Copy Gelding we won Juv class at the Celebration...ROYAL COPY..owned By A.P. CLINE ridden by Scott Potter...BACK IN THE DAY..but cant remember what yr...Scott has kids as old as he was when he won or older...I had three good Carbon Copy geldings...ALL were out of Suns Delight mares...Royal Copy,Copyrite & Copys Nite Train....
Mason
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(Unknown)

Copy's Night Train was a goodun for a long time.
Speaking of bay CC juvinile horses, Copy's Hot Pants was another.Copy's Frolic was another bay mare that used to win a lot.
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everready

Mason or anyone
how do yo spell Red GORSHNER last name owner of fashion two twenty
E
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(Unknown)

E, its spelled Gochneaur.Just like it sounds.
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everready

Thanks Moonglow, i was'nt even close, thats why i ask for help,NOT were i am from its not spelled as it sounds
GOSHNEAR
, I promise Mason could'nt spell it either, cause he's was just down the road a piece
E
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Mason

Everett
I wasnt going to be much help to you spelling that one either.....I was fairly good at spelling in school but TIME has erased MOST of the words from my feeble mind
Mason
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(Unknown)

E, o k I'll fess up, I looked it up in an old Blue Ribbon, I never would have been able to spell it either.
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everready

Mason & Moonglow
Age has a way to catch up with us, but oh what great memory's we have, if we can remember them
E
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(Unknown)

E, Your poem could go on for the rest of the year and we probably still wouldn't them all in.How about Mac Carter and Flip Cook?
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Big Ed

Mason,
There was a young man that showed Royal Copy some. Maybe Dr.Cline's grandson? I think he got a pretty good ribbon on him at the Celebration. What ever happened to him? Didn't he have aspirations of being a horse trainer?
Eddie
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everready

Moonglow66
Thanks keep-em coming, dont want to leave anyone out,this will be a never ending list, sorry to say.
Everett
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master

New, different trivia: Promotion in the early days, name the horse and rider whose owners [ on of all nights ] gave out "rain bonnets" on stake night 1969? Only hint is he did not beat the Senator. Promotion has came along way since 1969, remember seeing a car with "Encore" paint scheme in 2001.
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Go back to the poem on pg. 62, I have put in the last verse, see what you think.But will keep adding names when we get them.
Everett
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everready

David Howard
Go back to page 62, and read the poem we did on the WGC'S and the Rider's that have passed on, see what you think.If you think its worthy,we would like for you to print it in THE WALKING HORSE REPORT, so everybody can read .And feel free to twek it if you like.
Thanks
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
Its getting Better & I'm getting more sentimental. It's a great poem.
Yall talking about getting old, I'll be 58 in a couple weeks.
Yall have named my two bay Copies, Frolic & KingPin.
Rudy Meyer owned Frolic & he invented the half shaft easy rider cart.
Before he died, I told Joe, that Copy was the Blackest horse that I had seen & he told me his dam was a Bay.
Do yall remember when Herbert Derickson was a teenager, he brought T Threat back in the big Stake & the judges excused him for a bad image. Threat must have been in his twenties.
ThreadTramp
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senator 69

E,sorry I didn't get back to you on Red's last name ,been off the puter most of the day.Moonglow what yr. was that Blue Ribbon you found Red's name in and what was he on?
Jr.
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Saddle Tramp
Next month i will be a lot older than that, and Mason is the same age as me, we are ollllllld, but still look good.But most folks get our age gets (Furniture Disease), thats when their Chest falls in their Drawers
E
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senator 69

Speaking of the car and Encore I can't exactly remember but i think one of the owners might have been into stock cars too.
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senator 69

E,that is right your a April baby too aren't you.I'll be alot older too on the 12th.
Jr.
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:14 am

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Saddle Tramp

Brilliant Minds of YesterYear

1. In what Training barn, did Old Glory's Big Man begin his show career?

2. Who rode Pistol Packing PaPa to school?

3. What color is/was Bay & Bad?

4. What chain of eating establishments do the Waterfall Johnsons own?

5. What was the name of the tobacco co. that the Budds Owned?

6. Name Ronnie Spears 2yr old WGC.
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(Unknown)

senator 69, I put it back in the pile and don't remember which one now, but it was an ad for Greg's Perfection.
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(Unknown)

Tramp, Steve Hill started OGBM,I think the Johnson's own a boatload of Waffle Houses,Spears WGC 2 y.o. was Gunsmoke's Fireball
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(Unknown)

E, another good one we lost a couple of years ago was David Greer, he put Huck on some good stock.
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(Unknown)

Tramp, was the company the Budds owned Florida Queen Cigars?
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(Unknown)

Tramp, I do remember when TT was excused for bad image, he came in and did a big bold buggy trot half way around the ring and was excused for bad image.
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senator 69

Can anyone tell me who Gregg's Perfection's parents were?
Jr.
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Mason

Ed
Dr. Clines Grandson was Edward Thornhill...he did kind of want to train horses but he also was interested in eating...so he got a real job.
I remember him telling me when he told his mother that when he GREW UP he wanted to TRAIN Walking horses ....and she told him he couldnt do both!
Mason
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Mason

KENTUCKY WINS AGAIN TONIGHT....
HOW BOUT THEM CATS!!!
MASON
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smitty

.........I'm afraid the mighty Cats aren't so mighty this year......
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senator 69

Go CATS
Jr.
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Mason

Smitty
They've gone farther now than MOST folks thought theyd go this yr.I think they will win Sunday also...We are spoiled....
Mason
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smitty

Well.......once again you're right! I think those ESPN guys were picking Villanova.

So much for the EXPERTS!

I think they will play Kansas tough, but its a tall order for em. We'll see.........

If not...........how bout them CARDS!!!

(that ought stir sumpin up)
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Saddle Tramp

Moonglow
You Know your stuff. Florida Queen made a "Big Man Cigar". All your answers are correct.
Mr. Cleve Jernigan from Wartrace told me that he rode Steve Hills Pistol Packing PaPa to school. He owned the back parking lot for the horse show there.
Mr. Johnson told me that he owned all the Waffle Houses in Fla., Ga. & Ala.

Mason why are you pulling for an out of state team? When Vanderbilt, Tenn. & Memphis State are in the Ncaa Tournament. It ain't like you don't have a local to pull for. I believe Vandy WHUPPED Kentucky twice this year. Adolph Rupp, Joe B. Hall & Rick Petino ain't coaching up there no more anyhow, they ain't goin nowhur in this here turnymint.
Not it all
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Mason

Saddletramp
I spent lots of time in KY ...BACK IN THE DAY. Hobert & I talked lots of Basketball then...Got interested in the Wildcats and STILL get SOME of the old thrill to see them play. Basketball in KY is THE THING and I caught (KAT SCRATCH) fever...I like to watch ALL the TENN teams and HOPE they win...but I've spent more time in Lexington than in Knoxville if you know what I mean.I bleed BLUE ..SORRY
Mason
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Saddle Tramp

Mason
Thats your Peroggative, if you want to pull for the Cats, My son likes Fla St & one of my Bro in Laws is a big Tide fan. I was born in Ala but I'm Big Orange thru & thru, just wish we had a football & girls basketball coach, all we have is good recruiters. Pearl is a good coach but don't yet know if he will be able to recruit. Thought Krzslewki(Shashesky) was gonna cry as he was walking off court the other day when Duke got beat.
What does Jimmy McFarlin do now & could you give me directions to your House?
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Ryan

I have a trivia question for you. Who beat David Mason in the 1988 flatshod National Futurity and on what horse?
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Big Ed

Since I'm a Virginia boy ( My son graduated from UVA in 2006) I thought I might mention the Va./Tenn. game on Sunday. I couldn't let all you folks root for Ky and Tn. without making sure you knew there was a UVA fan on here also.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

BigEd
Good luck to your sons & Ralph Sampsons school in the NCAA turnymint. Va Com Welth did a purty gud job on Mike Kryzlewskiqiorjgfjehnunerinsnm's Duke team the uther day. Good luck to them too. Ryan Didn't know Mason wud stupe to showin a trale hoss. It was most likely Carl Smart, Fred James, Freland Talbot or one of the Parsley brothers.
Ignorance is bliss Manchester
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Ryan

Tramp It was a joke to Mason since he sold me the horse. I guess the old holier than thou padded brain hasnt changed much.
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Saddletramp,
Ralph grew up about 12 miles from me. Haven't seen him in a few years. Has trouble with the law and child support a lot. I had a customer who bought a set of twins off of Mason years ago. He and Ralph's father were co-workers and Ralph Sr. used to come to my barn some Saturdays. HE WAS A BIG MAN.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

Ryan
I have a magazine somewhere with the results of a horseshow in the late 50's early 60's that tells about a girl that beats Joe Martin from Gallatin Tn & Ronnie Spears of Scottsville Ky in the Equitation class. I thought maybe yours was a similar story. To bad!
SadlTrmp
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Big Ed

Was talking to my uncle in Ga. a few nights ago about when my grandad invented the Tail Brace. He said around 42/43. He used to help make them. He said that my gd ran a picture ad in the National Horseman mag. with a picture of the brace on a horse by the name of Beechlawn Peacock.
Anyone who could find this copy would have a real piece of memoribia. If someone does, I would pay good for a copy of the ad.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

BigEd
Didn't know if you would know who I was Talking about, But you do know your Va. basketball. Its to bad about Ralph, maybe he will get things straightened out before long.
SadlTrmp
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everready

Hey ya'll get off that basketball ,stuff i know little about horses, but nothing about basketball, makes me fill like a one armed paper hanger.
E
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:03 am

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Big Ed

Everett,
You are taller than me, that qualifies you for basketball. But I got to tell ya, smoking a pipe while you drive to the basket would probably get some laughs. But I'm like you I know even less about basketball.
Eddie
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everready

Amen, on the pipe, do you know were H.S. Musslewhite is still living, i think i heard some time back that he had passed, I trained for him here in FL. years ago.
E
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Big Ed

I only know the name. I doub't he is still alive.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
Wasn't Musselwhite from Maitland Fla?

More names, Lee McMichael (merry boy), Ellis Parker (merry maker), Ernest Smith (sir winston), Larry Gribble ( johny m. & mack k), Tom Reynolds (hall allen), Tom Brown (Giovanni), Kennie Nelson (rambling allen), Dave Curlee (spotted allen), Felix Smith (black angel & brenda lee), Jack Delay (spirit of Mn,
Thomas Eaton (colt man) Bud Byrom(mule & colts dad of jackie, jeff & justin), Dr Dewitt Owen, Jim & Mark Farrar & Mousie (head security 60's & 70's)

Earlier on thd we were discussing trainers hobbies.
Well 2 friends of mine, Richard Wall & Russell Pate enjoy trail riding. Well about five yrs ago, Russell brought a trail hoss with him to the celebration & Richard drove him & horses to Normandy Lake, outside of Shebvul (shelbyville). Well Richards Driving scared Russell about to death, was just over bypass surgery.
While riding along trails, Richard started admiring The reins on Russells bridle. Russell asked if he would like to have a set like that. Richard said that he would like a pair, Russell told him that if he would let him drive back to the barn that he could have those reins & he did.
SadlBum
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Good story on Walls, next time you see richard walls tell him i said hello,Do you know where Jack Delay's barn is between bch. grove and wartrace, i helped Goose Featherston build that barn when i was a kid.Musslewhite was from Maitland FL.
E
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Tramp,
Do you have any horse magazines from 1947? I'm looking for one with the results from the Shreveport Junior League Show that was May 22-24.
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Mason

Ryan
You ask me WHO beat me in 88
The best I remember EVERYBODY!
Mason
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Saddle Tramp

Moonglow
I will look & see. My mom had a sister that lived there & left a bunch of kids there.

Eveready
Was the barn on the left & was Featherston married to Beulah with sons Wayne & Jimmy?

Mason
Did you Recognize those old Murf. trail Riders on page 73 in my hit at you & Ryan? Carl Smart & C Martin were married to sisters.

Watching Ballgames
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Saddle Tramp
Coming from bch. grove to the trace, yea the barn is on the left, i dont know about now, but we put a flat concrete roof on it, it was the first flat roof at the time. it was pre- poured flat sections.Jack had it built to stand what horse steve hill had?
But i think jack got sick or might have passed away or the horse passed away,before he could be moved in.
I dont remember about Goose's family, he also made harrow's , you know what i am talking about?
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Evrt
Yea, a harr is what ye work the ground up real fine with, after yeve fust turned it & thin disked it. I ain't seed no barn lak yeve jest xplaned. Ye no whut ye & haw meenes. Whut about a jerk line? Know whut a pittman rod is? Whut is britchin? Whut is a sangle tree? Whut about a breast yoke? Yu no whut a flote or a drag Is? Dubble shevel, bull tongue, hillside turnin plow, 1 ro planter, cyclone seeder, windless, careseen, coleoil, quarn(shew), clabbered milk(yum), mountain oysters, chitlins & coldbreadpuddin.
And all because you asked about a harrow!
sorry KRM
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Ryan

Mason

I have told the story many times about when we were warming up for the 88 futurity and you were riding a very pacy yellow horse. You passed me and pointed at Jessie and said " I should be riding that one" lol
Im excited to know we are both still alive, are you still in the jack russell business?

Ryan
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Mason

RYAN
NO Jack Russells ...I still have some Patterdales & Border Terriers. Good to hear from you....I had forgotten that YELLER thang....a man do...what a man gotta do!That woman had paid the bill & I had to show!OF course she took it home AFTER that show( do you really blame her?)That one is just ANOTHER on a long list of JUNK I've HAD to show trying to keep the wolf away from the door.HARD TIMES WILL MAKE A MONKEY EAT AN ONION
If you are ever in Wartrace look me up
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graymare

I have had surgery for a torn Achilles' tendon and have been off the computer for a while as it is not easy to hang that leg down for very long at a time. I have finally caught back up with my reading and just want to say thank you for all the great memories. I have read names here tonight that I had long ago forgotten and the memory of those wonderful people that was stirred by your writings is a great thing. David, I remember Mr. Clyde when you were at that barn. He was always so very nice to me. Tell Janet that I asked about her at Dr. Jordan's a few weeks ago and was jealous to know she is retired and living the good life. Thanks again, for all the good memories. Keep chatting!!
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Mason

Greymare
I.D. yourself....?
Mason
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Saddle Tramp
Yea i know what all those things are,I did come in on a truck ,but not a turnip truck.You didnt name Jack Delays horse name, it was Spirit of Midnight,i know you remember him.I think someone might have tore that barn down maybe i think i did hear that someone put a regular kind of roof on that barn ,it was on the left side, you did turn on a dirt road, the road run all most parallel with the pave road.
E
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Eveready
I know the barn you're talking about now. You can turn on that same road at where the BG school was. The barn would be on the rh side of the road & a house across the road from it, its a dairy farm now. I've always wondered about that barn. I use to ride horses on that road.Was Jack Delay a school teacher? I thought he lived in Nashville. The barn is just like hyou described. If you go back to p73, you will find that I sent a new list of names, jack & spirit are on it.
SadlBum
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everready

Saddle Tramp-Sorry about that, i do remember you sending that now.I believe he was a school teacher are head of schools in some way, and he was from Nashville
E
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Mason

Mr. Jack was in the concrete business in Nashville AFTER he was a school teacher.When I worked for Steve Hill.... Steve had Spirit...Mr Jack gave all us a carton of cigerettes for Christmas...I got a carton of Camels...a real gift back in THE DAY!I think about him everytime I pass that concrete barn...Also the fence post around the place were concrete...lots of them are still there.
Mason
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everready

Guy's i will be out of town until wed. evening, ya'll keep-er going, I will check back in wed. night.
GOING TO DISNEY WORLD
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready
Say hello to Mickey & be sure to go in the haunted house. Have a good time & we will miss you & be sure to take a wheel barrow of money, you'l need it.

What was Beech & Yokleys slogan at the Murray Farm & Sale of Showring Champions in the late 60's & the 70's
Hint, it had Tennessee in it.
SaddleTramp
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Mason

KEEP TENNESSEE GREEN BRING MONEY
Mason
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J441

twhlady, do you remember George Neal from the Ooltewah area? That's another old friend I really miss. And Harold McClure from Middle Valley. I worked out of Harold's barn for a time, and he treated me like I was family. Honest as they come.
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Saddle Tramp

Mason
Exactly correct on slogan, sounds greedy if you think about it though.
Name the people that stud Merry Maker across from store between BG & Murf. & name that community.
Sadlbum
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Mason

GUM Tennessee...WAS ALSO the Home of Judy Garland
Mason
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Saddle Tramp

Mason
Gum is the correct community, Byfords stood Merry Maker, There might be some debates on whether Frances Gum came from there or not. I have read some articles on the internet(quite abit) & it didn't mention Tn., but it did say that her dad had lived in Tullahoma.
Tn had a hard time today, just like Ky is having now, Mids girls played very well last night. Good luck unless you meet the Vols.
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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:38 pm

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shoe

Does anyone know who sold the black horse to Red? Was it someone in Ky?
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graymare

David, I sent you an e-mail.
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Big Ed

The fact that Tenn. just beat Virginia, 77-74 isn't
going to shut me up. Two very similar teams and records. I guess the best won. I like baseball better anyway.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

BigEd
2 evenly matched teams, the lucky team won today, thats all can be said.
Enjoy baseball season.
SadlTrmp
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Saddle Tramp

Shoe
Buddy Moore or Wallace Brandon might know, but I don't.
SadlTrmp
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J441

Well, Tennessee now has three teams in the "sweet sixteen"...
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senator 69

I really don't remember either.He was a good son-of -a-gun though.
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Mason

Greymare...THANKS for the I.D. good to hear from you....
Mason
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Saddle Tramp

Audience
What pony did Joe Kelly & Ray Beech win WGC for several yrs with in 60's?
Who sung Watching Scotty Grow & daughter showed walking pony for awhile?
Who stood Merry Go Boy right after wining WGC?
What auctioneer drove Road Horses?
What WGC rider had uncle named Afred & cousin named
Brenda Fisher?
SadlTramp
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Tramp,
The pony Ray Beech showed was Little Bit O Trouble.
Bobby Goldsboro's daughter showed a walking pony.
I think MGB stood in Virginia at C.C. Turner's place for a while.
I believe Eddie Bryant drove road horses.
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smitty

Mason,

I dug back in my memory and remembered a photo of you playing a mandolin in the walking horse report. This was probably back in the seventies. I remember you were surrounded by several other musicians and it appeared you had your riding habit and hat on. This was way before I ever met you.

Just curious, do you know the photo and remember where it was taken?
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broomman

Pete Yokely
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Mason

Smitty
That photo was made PROBABLY around 74-75 at BoBos sale barn...we played for something(?) someone was having there dont remember what...wasnt a riding habit but a coat that looked like it was....BACK IN THE DAY!
We called ourselves "THE HORSE BARN BAND"...we practiced at my barn ,thats how we named ourselves.
I still play with several old folks...we aint bad fUr what we do!
Mason
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linda faye

Hey you guys are good---I have heard you play several times. I know that Casey and his grandson Jason still play do they play with you any?

Where is Buddy now is he still interested in music like his dad?
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Mason

They do a little ...but Jason doesnt come regular.Buddy is playing MORE now than ever...hes playing in a Bluegrass group(OUT & RUNNING) in Lynchburg...they play lots of Jack Daniel events & etc...have one CD they peddle when they play...I think they are working on another one now.We are SO-SO ...THEY ARE GOOD!
Mason
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fatpup

Terri Goldsboro showed a great pony named Scatman's Kitty Kat.
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old budd

Anyone remember Tennessee Dude? Walking pony from '52-'53 Celebrations, Eddie Register rode him some.
old buddy
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Mason

No but I remember Dixie Darling that he rode...out of Don Paschals barn I think
Mason
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linda faye

Where can get a copy of Buddy's CD. My son Cliff Wilson would love to have one--he always thought so much of you and Buddy---I still blame you for him being a horse trainer (ha) he would come in from your barn and tell me that he was gonna be just like
mr. Mason---and today he traines, shows and shoes horse for a living. Guess that is ok------sometime I wish he had gone to college----but seems like once the horse bug bites it hard to leave.
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Mason

If you are ever in Lynchburg they sell the CDs at The Caboose BBQ cafe
Mason
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linda faye

Thanks, tell Buddy hi for us----found out that you only live a short distance from us. we live on Liberty Pike ( my parents old homeplace) Nolen keeps saying that he is going to come and see you, but seems like never has the time.
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Big Ed

Saddletramp,
Bobby Goldsboro pony was named The Copy Cat, Daughter's name was Terry, I think. My daughter Amanda showed Copy Cat(late 80s), for CW Kline in Juv.<11 ranks up here in Va. for two years. Won everything there was, good little pony.

Merry Go Boy was stood by CC Turner in my home town of Broadway. Have lots of the advertising memorbilia. Calenders, photos, bios, thermomters, ash trays, etc. Ted Roadcap was the stud manager and handler. Died about 10 years ago. My first barn was on the Turner property and CC used to bring his lawn chair over and set down and pass judgement on some of my stock. Was very critical.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

Audience
Little Bit of Trouble was the pony.
Bobby Goldsboro is the singer.
Eddie Bryant might have driven, but I was looking for
Pete Yokley.
French Brantley was a judge for Merry Go Boy & stood
him after the Celebration at Noah Tn.
I thought Alfred F. that taught at Manchester & lived at Beech Grove was Masons uncle by marriage. (his wife was a Mason) they had a son named Mason F, maybe I'm wrong or!

What were Wilson Allens & Merry Boys foundation No's?
What horse by Allen F1 stud at Chapel Hill?
What was Gene Autrys Champion Jrs. reg name?
What was Trigger Jrs. reg name?
What was Hills Perfs. dams name?
Name the 4 horses that a former Wgc owner had & her former husbands showed to the WGC.(she owned 1 & don't call the peoples names!)
SadBum
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(Unknown)

Is everyone on this list aware that starting next week you have to subscribe to the WHR and pay another $25 fot this site(total $75) to keep posting?I don't see why you have to sucscribe to the paper when you can read it online a week before the paper comes, and then you just throw the paper away.I don't mind paying the $25 to ger WHR online, but I'm not going to pay $50 for a paper I don't need.
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twhlady

Nope, didn't know that........but it makes sense. Advertising sales will be down a lot.... I imagine. And maintaining the web site is certainly not free. Guess if we want to keep our conversation going, we will have to ante-up........Actually, if you really think about it, we know major happenings, events and news extremely quickly.........and we have the added bonus of being able to discuss whatever is going on.

There are 75 pages of posts on this one thread...that was begun exactly 5 months ago today. The information that we all have shared is immense, very valuable, oftentimes uplifting and heartwarming....and CERTAINLY worth the $25 bucks it will cost.......Tommy,s chat is about the same and we do not get the news there - just the gossip about the news......figure it out, for the paper and the forums it is only about $1.50 - the cost of a fountain drink - per week......

I, for one, hope all of you do the ante.....so I can reminisce some more......

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Big Ed

twhlady
Not that I mind paying the 25 bucks, but I do think that everyone who uses this and other threads should email David Howard. Simply suggest that his ability to enjoy the financial rewards of the wh business is very much dependent upon the industry surviving and this is one of the best ways to keep things alive. It promotes news, enjoyment and and continues to remind people of the great breed. Past, present and future and all of the wonderful people associated with it. It's water for a very thirsty flower.
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

Big Ed
You are wrong on the pony, Her name was Scat Mans Kitty Cat, Steve Hawkersmith of Ronnie Spears stables won the pony WGC with her, Jamie Walker showed her & Donald Paschal trained her at that time.
CC Turner owned Merry Go Boy, He stud at his barn for just a short time, whether before or after Brantleys, I'm not sure. Charley told me that they collected him in a dish pan. Bye for now!
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Big Ed

Saddletramp,
If you look on page 221 of the 1977 Blue Ribbon you will find that the pony Bobby Goldsboro owned and his daughter Terri showed, was named THE COPY CAT, trained by Albert Lee Rowland. Didn't say they won a WC. As I said, my daughter showed this pony for 2 years in the late 80's.
Eddie
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(Unknown)

I believe Terri Goldsboro showed more than one pony.
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Saddle Tramp

Big Ed
I don't doubt whether your daughter ot Terri showed a pony named Copy Cat. All I know is Terri showed a bay mare pony Named Scat Mans Kitty Cat. It was a ligitamate pony, about 13 1/2 hands & raised by Freland Talbot of Murfreesboro Tn. I do remember Terri showing a spotted pleasure pony Out of Continental Farms when Albert Lee worked there.(Waterfall Farms)
We could both be right.
Saddle Tramp
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Mason

Saddletramp
Alfred F. was NOT my uncle...His wife and my dad were cousins...making me a distant cousin to Brenda.Anyway Alfred was a good Teacher as well as a friend to me when I was a kid. I need to hunt them up.

Mason
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Saddle Tramp

Mason
Tol thing.
SadlBum
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broomman

It is the American way. You own the business... you set the expectations/requirements and the public decides if the product you are offering is worth the cost.

The WHR has this right. For those who are businees owners I think you would agree. Its about marketing and supply & demand.

I have enjoyed the triva a lot....now I will have decide how much I enjoy it.

Broomman
www.hensonbrooms.com
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(Unknown)

Tramp & Ed, I have in front of me the 1976 and 1977 Voice Celebration Editions. In 1976 Terri Goldsboro tied fifth in the fourteen and under pony class on Scatman's Kitty Cat.
In 1977 she tied nineth in the Pony Championship class on a pony named The Copy Cat.
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(Unknown)

Twhlady, You point out that $75 a year is a small price to pay for all the memories that we have received from this site and this thread in particular, and there is truth in what you say. However, I feel there is a greater truth in the principal that we should not be forced to pay for something we do not need or want. I will gladly pay $25 for for using the WHR site, I feel that is fair and reasonable. By the same token, is is unfair and unreasonable for me to pay an additional $50 for a paper that will be yesterdays news by the time I receive it and will be thrown in the trash when it finally gets to me. Like many others are saying, I can afford it if I had to, but I don't have to, and I choose not to.I realize this is a business decision, but in my opinion it is a very bad one, and the losses will be more than the gains.
In any event, I would like to thank you for starting this thread, I have enjoyed it more than anything else in the past five years I have been on the internet.
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Big Ed

Think Everett is in Disney World, back on Thursday
Eddie
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Saddle Tramp

MoonGlow66
Thanks for enlightening BigEd & I, Its good that both can be right.

I have really enjoyed this thread, It has helped pass these long winter days & nights. But the days are getting brighter & warmer now & I think that I can manage just fine without it until we fall back an hour.
I would be interested, if someone starts a new thread. I think Evrt & mason have my email address.
By the way where is the official word on this bad news anyway?
SadlBum
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J441

Graymare, I'm with you. The Howard family has every right to charge for this site & $25/year is a very small price to pay. Frankly, I don't see how it is worth their time at that price to keep it up. It has been a long-time service to the TWH fans at no charge, and I applaud them for offering it to us.
That being said, I have dropped my memberships to the TWHBEA and the SSHBEA. I doubt at this moment that I will invest any more money, no matter how small the amount, in the horse industry until I see some improvement. That isn't a barb thrown at the USDA or a lack of ability for the separate factions to come together and agree to unite and move forward, or even the people who continue to do the things that create the problems and then lie to cover it up when everyone knows the real score. Also, I do not believe all judges are crooks or that all great horses are sore.
I just lost a lot of enthusiasm when the Grand Championship class was cancelled, the announcement of explanation was later proven to be an outright lie (intentional or not), and the real root cause never explained.
I was raised in this industry and love this breed, but something just felt dirty at that point, kind of like when point shaving conspiracies were proven in another sport/industry. To call me a "fair weather friend" would be to ignore my involvement through many years, heartaches, and tough times. But last year cut deep.
Again, I endorse the decision to charge a minimal fee for this service, but I just don't know if I have it in me to pay for anything else at this time.
Maybe it's time for me to just be another very small part of the history.
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Christy Parsons

Anyone is certainly welcome to start their own message board and you are certainly under no obligation to use this one if you choose not to.

However, I have removed the posts regarding a new message board. It is only fair for you to start yours the same way we started ours, from scratch.

I hope you understand.

If you need more information about the upcoming changes at www.walkinghorsereport.com, please see the threads which give all the details. The new site will launch on Monday, March 26.
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turntoride

Christy,

I can't believe that people who have had free access to this site for over ten years would make some of the statements that I have seen. Also, to use your site to start another site is disgraceful and you should not allow them to post.

Thanks for all your have done for free and I am sending my money.
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Christy Parsons

Thanks turntoride!

Let me know what you think of the new site next week!
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graymare

Christy - I don't really think I said anything that deserved getting my post removed. I said I intend to support this site and join up and see how it develops. I said I enjoyed this site very much. I said it was a positive place. I just made the statement that a few dollars here and a few dollars there adds up over a period of time. It does. All I asked was that if someone started another site, I would be invited to join it as well as this one.
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grits

jeeeeee wizzzzz, this means I am going to have to come to work and actually do something.... other than read the message board allday
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Mason

I HOPE we didnt make anyone mad(?)...ALL I was TRYING to say was I have enjoyed all this old Trivia & History stuff...I have NO need for a Paper.(my bird died)..WOULD be HAPPY to send a little $$ to help such a good cause ... ALL I want is to keep up with OLD STUFF and Old friends...this thing about kicking us off Monday came on us so fast I was afraid I'd lose touch with the OLD FOLKS...thats why I said I'd join an OLD FOLKS chat line? ...BUT IS IT "ALL ABOUT THE $$$"
COULD there be a way us old folks could send few $$$ and JUST CHAT?
Mason
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Saddle Tramp

Christy Parsons
I wouln't mind paying $25 Per yr for using the chat line, but I had a subscription to your paper & got bored with it before it ran out. I don't care what horse the Johnsons just bought or whats going on with the Breeders assoc., the Trainers, the DQP's & the G Men. I'm not looking for a Stud to breed my mare to, because I don't have any mares, But I do know quite a bit about the past, Horses & People. Besides that, why should I pay for a subscription when, you give the papers away at the shows & in your entrance. The Annual fee on your paper is for the shipping & since we don't want your paper, then we shouldn't have to pay shipping.
So please cut it out with the GREED & just charge us $25 per yr on the CHAT line, PLEASE!
Sincerely SaddleTramp
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Mason

Very interesting...lots of STUFF is getting taken off...but in less than three days we're gone anyway I guess?
Mason
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howarddavidl

David, the comments by turntoride were inappropriate and not fair to you. Your response was not constructive either...thus both were removed.

I am sorry you do not want to stay with us - thanks for your past friendship and support.

David L. Howard
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twhlady

OH MY GOD.........WHATEVER IS HAPPENING (YES, I AM SHOUTING)

Now folks, seems like everyone is raising hell over the simple fact that Christy/David just built a better mousetrap.........We have no other forum for all that we have shared.....

All you folks not wanting to look at all the advertisements and read the old news because of the snail mail, certainly do enjoy the internet format, correct??? Well, the newspaper supplies this format for us to enjoy........get my drift?

Now a bit about the newspaper Christy and David print - and which I have NOT been a subscriber since David died - but will again become one..........
The money we pay for the paper does not pay for anything more that the cost (bulk rate) for getting it to our mailboxes........The Howard enterprise makes not one cent on our subscriptions.....except for the numbers/circulation to attract corporate and business type advertising AND THAT GUARANTEES THE TYPE BULK RATE SERVICE FROM USPS WHICH MAKES THE SUBSCRIPTION LESS EXPENSIVE...........

DO YOU FOLKS NOT REALIZE THAT WE GET MORE ABSOLUTE AND TIMELY NEWS ABOUT OUR INDUSTRY FROM THIS WEB SITE THAN FROM ANY OTHER SINGLE SOURCE.....ANYWHERE? As soon as something happens, we have access to the facts right here.......not watered down, not profiled, and with very little spin........

Additionally.........

We love to communicate, have been left totally alone, and we have stirred up lots of memories and rejeuvenated friendships long gone.

Now, to those of you who choose to leave.....I have really enjoyed the conversation......great to visit with you again, some of you after countless years.
......I, for one, shall miss you. For those of you who stay, see you next week.....

Sarah Lynn
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Mason

David GLAD you are here...ALL some of us OLD TIMERS are wanting to do is CHAT..nothing else...YOU KNOW I could care less WHO won last night...or NEXT week...I wouldnt mind paying a reasonable fee to be able to CHAT.This HAS kind of gotten out of hand...I'm NOT serious about anything I've said EXCEPT I would LIKE to CHAT WITH THE OLE FOLK. I have renewed OLD friendships that honestly Id forgotten about on this thing...I KNOW DH dont need the $$$ to keep us CHATTING.This did come on us quickly..I think thats what got us started with all this MESS...we do not want to lose touch
Mason
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Mason

SMITTY
NOW we really HAVE got a problem...I just read in the KY sports paper...Tubby is leaving...NOW WHAT?
With ALL this board stuff and now this I'm gonna have to up my blood pressure pills!

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PostSubject: Re: Trivia Archive 1   Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:30 pm

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everready

MY GOSH
I leave for three days and things go to hell in a handbasket, what is going on. my email is
emajors@tampabay.rr.com , did have a good time at disney, but done got to old for that stuff, every bone in my body hurts. I myself enjoy staying in touch with old friends and the new ones i have met on this site.But like most everyone else on here dont care about whats going on now, this is what keeps us YOUNG AT HEART, reliving the best time to be in the horse business,let me know what most of you are going to do.
Everett
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Mason

I'm TRYING to get David to let us OLE FOLKS pay a reasonable fee and JUST CHAT..nothing else
Mason
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Mason

OUCH!
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graymare

Mason, Sarah Lynn, and Everette, I am going to pay my $15 and linger awhile. I have surely gotten that much good out of these old memories. Besides that, it has been a great distraction while I am laid up with this bum leg business. One of the things I had liked best about this thread was how everyone was getting along and enjoying each other. Even when there were disagreements, it was handled in a sane and civil way and we all stayed friends. Seems to be getting a little hostile now and it is no fault of us old folks. Heck, I don't know about you, but I don't have the energy OR enough blood pressure medicine to handle much of a fight these days!!
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everready

Come on David Howard
Dont let us old folks down,i know it must cost lots to maintain these sites,I myself would not mind paying a little to to stay in touch with everybody, but really dont have no need to keep up with all the current news, come Christy helps us out.
Thanks for this site, we all have renewed old friendships and made new ones.
Everett Majors
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Big Ed

Mason, Everett, Saddletramp, twhlady, Moonglow,
Sure have enjoyed my short time on this thread. Been lots of fun and great memories. Sounds like this thing could go "cafluey" any time. Want to stay up with you guys. I'm in and out and if we get shutdown before I find out how to stay on, someone please email me or call and tell me what to do. I love youuns.
Eddie (BigEd)

540-480-2166 Cell
540-896-2977 Home, leave message
edtramadab@aol.com
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everready

A few days ago we were talking about Judy Hensley and the horse trainer she is married too, i was checking out the trainers results, Judy is married to Bruce Hankins,i knew who he was just could'nt think of his name until i saw it.
Everett
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everready

Eddie
we will stay in touch
Everett--emajors@tampabay.rr.com
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Saddle Tramp

Audience
I have truly enjoyed conversing with yall for the past 77 pages. I will apologize if it ever seemed that I was trying to be a wise Guy. I was only enjoying myself to the fullest. I will have to think about the pay thing. If I decide to, it will be next fall, when the time reverts back. It does look like David & Christy could fix it so that we could just log on to the chat line for a lesser fee than those that want both.
David & Christy
I am truly gratefull that you have supplied this, thus far. I have only been on this site for less than a year. One thing bothers me, Howard, David asked who Chuck Layton was and I said a photographer that stamped his cuts "Action 70 by Layton". You never came back & Said Yey or Ney or said thank you for the info as most of us do. Another thing Everette appealel for you to publish a Memorable Poem that is great in every sense of the word & still no response that I have seen.
EverReady
I'll miss you old/new pal
How about Janie Hugh, Ben Green & David Kranich

Bucksnort Lady
You've got the best weeklong trailride in existence, Tumbling Creek perfectionizes your campground. Whatever you do, don't fire that cook. The stables sure take the worry out of keeping up with the horses.
I like the fact that you can get one day free, if you stay a whole week. The horse Show auction & band sure add to the week. Dean & Jimmy can sure take you on some good rides, especially the Snowy River Ride. Would like to come to Waverly, come April & ride.
Bye for now Linda & Tony JRS Bud KM
SaddleTramp
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Thanks for everything, I wish David & Christy would publish THE POEM, even if i have to say so myself its good, But couldn't have done it with out your input,and encouragement.
My email is emajors@tampabay.rr.com
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Evrt & others
My email is amoore@cafes.net

Well Everette, I don't know if we have ever seen each other or not, but we have shore had some good dialogue
on this here mechanism. Maybe we will decide to "re-up"
later on & talk again. If not, maybe we will be right when the Lord comes for his on & we can have some Bigger discussions behind those Walls of Jasper. But times awasting & I,m gonna ask another Question or 2.
What horse do you think had the best head & ear on him? Royal Heir, Shadows Royal Flush, or Marks Tradition?
Was Jimmy Ellis adopted?
Was Emmit Guy Sheriff, Mayor or both of Jackson Tn?
What was the first yr at present Cel. grounds?
What was former name World Ch Horse Equip?
Was Syd Houston a Man?
What lady that wrote about TWH in the Nashville Papers is still alive at 100 yrs plus?
What former breeder & owner of WGC's died incarcerated?
Did Man o War ever win the Derby?
How many times did Wing Commander Win ASB WGC?
What Lady WH trainer married ASB trainer?
Who owned Wisers Dimples?
Was Odell McConnell Uncle Versie Ledbetters son?
That shud keep ye bizzy!
SaddddddBum
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Royal Aire on the ears
Dont think Jimmy was aopted
Emmit was sheriff -I think
Cel. cant remember-guess 44
WCHE-Walking Horse Supply
DONT KNOW
DONT KNOW
DONT KNOW
Man of War yes-i think
dont know
dont know
Wisers d. Winston w.
Maybe
Everett
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graymare

Wasn't that lady's name Lindsey Warden or something like that? I am not sure if that is right. I can see her in my mind, but I am not sure if the name is right for the newspaper writer.
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Tramp,
I think Royal Heir had the prettiest head and ears I've ever seen.
I think Dr. Porter Rogers would have been the owner and breeder of WGCs that died incarcerated.
I believe Wing Commmander was a 5 time WGC.
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Saddle Tramp

Eveready & Graymare
Miss Margaret Lindsey Warden is correct on writer.
I agree about Royalaires ears. Archie, Winstons Brother owned Dimples, I think Dr Rodgers is an answer, Emmit was Sher & Mayor, 1948 0n Cel., Man o War never raced in Ky, so never won Derby. Wing Commander Won ASB WGC 6 cosec times. Marianne Leach married J.T. ASB trainer. Walking horse Supply is correct answer. Syd Houston Was a female TWHBEA sec.
I was just kidding about Odell Mc. you would have to be up on Jerry Clower stories to appreciate it.
Goodnight Irene SaddleTramp
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bigdaddy

Jimmy Ellis was a adpoted. He looked for his biol. mother for several before he find her.

On this making another blog deal. Try ezbroad.com under search type tn walking horse scroll down to as the walking horse world world turns. I think it has everything you need wkithout you making a another biog.
You have to register for it BUT IT IS FREE
mhw from sc. low country
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Big Ed

Saddle Tramp
I was thinking that Walking Horse Supply was still operating when World Champion started up. I think they first opened a store over close to the old Holiday Inn.
Did they later merge or buyout, etc. Moved into the WHS building later???
Eddie
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bigdaddy

Walking horse supply was bought out by Mr. Howard and the name was changed to Worls Champion Horse Equipment. The first store for walking horse supply was a old service station on wartrace pike. Then moved in building behind then
at that time was the Holiday Inn/ Then moved to Madison Ave. . that where Mr. Howard bought them out

mhw from sc low country.
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everready

Is Odell McConnall still living?
Everett
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everready

Saddle Tramp
Are you kin to buddy moore.
E
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bucksnort lady

Saddletramp

Thank you ever so much. Tony is down there now turning on the water and getting things ready for April. Do come see us. How's JR, well I hope. Holler at me via the webpage and we'll keep in touch. Would love to stay on chat but sounds like we may not get that option. How sad. Memories of my show days were brought back and I've had a ball with this thread. Keep me posted after this weekend. May take me a bit to get back on here, depending on the outcome.

Love and best wishes to all who have participated in this thread. It's truly has been a walk down memory lane.

Bucksnortlady
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Ever Ready
No, I'm not kin to Buddy Moore, but we are friends. His Father inlaw Jake is also a good friend. Buddy came from Murf. & I'm from North Ala.
What former pro trainer about your age came back & showed High Dollar woman in amatuer classes?
Is Thresh Or Thisaloe a hoof problem?
What was the cure for Holler Tail in cattle?
Where would be the right sign for cutting a tail?
Did CC Richards own Merry go Boy?
Would you want Skippers in yore kuntry ham?
Is okrie better boiled or fried?
Who showed Shadows Royal Flush?
Do you have a copy of Mary Ruth Motes Trainers book?
Have a good morn gone fishing
SadBum
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bucksnort lady

Saddletramp

What fun it would be to HOST a get together for all our "chat" buddies. I could get Billy to make us some of his wonderful Barbecue and we could have a high time sharing memories in the dining hall or those that wanted to ride for the day.....hey, Tony, Dean, Jimmy..they are ALWAYS ready to go.

Lordy we would have a ball. JR can come if he behaves.
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everready

Saddle Tramp
High Dollor.Jack Litteral
Thresh-- Thisaloe is in the withers

Dont know
Know But cant remember
Dont Know
Dont Know
Fried
Mack Motes
No.
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broomman

Man O' War did not win the derby....did not lose either.......did not run.....only lost once in career....to a horse named Upset.

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