Trivia Archive 1

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Mason

Saddletramp
Holler tail in cattle is simple to cure...cut the tail open and fill it with salt..wrap it up and FEED the cow...FEED was the cure...I dont know why they used to split the tail.
Mason
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doctor

So long everybody, it has been fun listening!!!!!
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everready

This has been so much fun, chatting and listening to people i have not heard from in years. So DAVID & CHRISTY THANKS for the MEMEORYS.SURE WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO KEEP THIS CHAT GOING,I dont think you all understand the need for this site for the elder people, sure some of us can afford it, BUT there might be some that cant afford the cost,that look forward ever day getting on your site just to hear people go over the BYGONE years.I'M hurt but not mad, cause you gotta do what you gotta do.
Everett
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BUBBADOG

Okra is better fried - cut tails when signs are above the feet - and Everette is right not all of us can afford the extra expense - but it sure has been fun. mhw - where in sc lowcountry are you from?
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Saddle Tramp

To all of yall down to earth good People
Thank you for responding & at least trying to answer most of my Questions, no matter how rediculous they might have been.
Evrt.
Went to boat dock today, Connell D. still runs it, but goes by Norton now. Didn't see him.(thresh/thrush)
Linda
Tell Tony Howdy.
Mason
You got to wrap that split tail up with a rag & feed that holler belly too.
Broom man
Man of War never raced in Derby or in Kentucky, your right.

Questions
How many millimeters in a hand?
How many hands in a foot?
What profession did Sam Yarbrough have before working for S.W.?
What was name of Pete Yokleys farm?
Name Bill Tunes Father.
What did Amy Boyd show?
Where was Celia Shuptrine from?
Name Russell Pates mom.
What famous cafe is on sq at Shebvul?
What was The educated horses name from Shebvul of 1800's?
Bye for now Friends SadBum
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twhlady

I think mr. Sam Yarborough was in law enforcement.

Celia Schuptrine was from Dallas County, Alabama.

With tears in my heart I say goodbye to those of you who will not continue these wonderful conversations. I do wish David and Christy would make some type of arrangements for the "retired" friends to be able to access the forums........Perhaps with some viable information as to who they are and that they are no longer actively involved.

Who knows, maybe our usefulness is gone?????

Sarah Lynn Bledsoe
bledsoesl@aol.co please email me- for old times sake
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BUBBADOG

Saddletramp - the next time that you go to the boat dock and see Connell - please tell him that Cissy sends her love - it has been a long time - also if you called him "Rubber Ducky" he might get a real laugh and tell you a funny tale. Thanks
SL, Everette & mason - I have your email addresses and can stay in touch that way - only it wo't be nearly as much fun!
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Saddle Tramp

Some answers
Sam Yarbrough was Police Chief in Pulaski Tn. & Celia Shuptrine was from Ala. She & Dan Brannan of Belvidere Tn. showed Miss Liberty a spotted roan pony with glass eyes.
If any of yall ever run across any 30's or 40's Murray Farm Sale Catalogs, I've a collection going & would like to buy some more.
I'll keep a lookout for you a 39 Blueribbon, Mason.
Haven't found results of 47 Shreveport show, Moonglo.

This chat line has flat rernt me, its a beautiful clear warm day & I'm in the house typing. I guess I'll go out & do some spring yard work so bye for now.
SaddleTramp
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everready

Grand pa whats fer supper---We were just talking about fried okra, I just got through eating supper, my wife had fixed fried okra, greens, scalloped potatoes,roasted chicken, and cornbread,mmmm good.
Everett
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BUBBADOG

Hey Everette - stay in touch - keep on sending me those highly sophisticated and tasteful e-mails - I love them - c
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twhlady

Well folks, I just subscribed for WHReport.....and will do whatever is necessary on Monday to be able to continue learning the news, keeping up with events, receiving notices of births and deaths of loved ones in our great industry..........and seeing nice ads of people showing our great breed........AND CHATTING WITH THOSE OF YOU WHO REMAIN.......

I SINCERELY HOPE AT LEAST SOME OF YOU JOIN UP AND SUBSCRIBE. It will be a shame for us to lose touch...
again.......after so long.

Those of you who do subscribe, please add your names to our thread.......Those of you who do not, perhaps you will take the time to send an email from time to time.

I emailed Christy and David to let them know there is a contingency of horsemen, no longer industry involved except in the heart, who would like to continue chatting......

Hopefully, they will make some allowances for those who are retired and/or those who have only an interest in keeping up with old friends and talking about old times.........

Maybe they will do something to allow payment only for the chat. I am sure IF this can be done, there will be a system for guaranteeing that WHReport is not wanted/needed........in order to qualify only for the chat.........

Remember add your screen names if you will continue...
And to the rest, maybe something will be done.

Sarah Lynn
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everready

Sara
Did you read the poem to the WGC'S and the salute to the people that has passed on, that we did,your beloved one is in there , its back on page 62, read it and let me know what you think
Everett
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J441

twhlady, thank you for starting this great thread, and thanks to David and family for providing this service for so long, then only charging a minimal fee to keep it running. No one else through the years has tried to bring the TWH news to the public in such an honest and unbiased way.
I was trying to decide what to do when I realized that instead of driving 45 miles (1 hour) to the trainer's show, I'm working to get my boat in shape. The decision has already been made...
I have enjoyed chatting with all of you. Best of luck to each and everyone in the future, and maybe I'll take some time off from fishing to hit a horse show or two and see you there. Regardless, as Red Skelton said in his sign-off at the end of his show every night..."may God bless!"
Richard Hickey
ridatras@bellsouth.net
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everready

Please Everyone email me ,I have a Question
emajors@tampabay.rr.com
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

J441
We went to show Last night (fri), people said wed & thur were great, last night wasn't. Started 1 hr late,
dispute with feds I heard, About 1/3 seating capacity in Calsonic, small classes & poor quality. Left after 3 yr old filly riders cup. Might go back tonight. If you fish at nickajack wouldn't mind meeting you there sometime & fishing with you.
Goodbye to all

Evrt you have given 2 diff emails please confirm?

Will miss yall Ken Moore
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everready

Saddle Tramp
email me at
emajors@tampabay.rr.com
Everett
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Saddle Tramp

Evrt
Thanks, saw Charles Brantley & told him you are in Tampa, he has computor, will find out if he has email.
Saw Hoyt T. also. Saw D.H. but didn't talk. Talked to Jane Moores 93 yr old father Jake Lacey. 2 yrs ago at Cele a man told him if he didn't quite smoking, he wouldn't make it to 90, He responded I' m already 91.
Have a great day
KRM
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J441

twhlady, I do subscribe to the paper & have for several years. I enjoy reading the Report cover to cover every week, and I'm sure you will as well.
Another trivia question, but does anyone remember Benvis Beechboard? Saddletramp, there was also another fellow at the sales we called "Buckboard". Do you remember him or know his real name? Do you know who owns Earnest Starnes' old farm, or if it is even still there? I know so many of the old farms are now subdivisions, but this one bordered on a wildlife refuge area. Hope it is still there.
Also, someone said "Mostella" (sp? I think his first name was Charles) who worked for Joe Van Clayton had passed away. Does anyone know?
It was also nice to hear from Priscilla (sp?) Talley and Micky Groom on this thread. Micky was the first exhibitor to have her mount throw a shoe at the Celebration in it's current location. She had a daughter who starred in a network television soap.
Well, back to the boat. I'm making progress...
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graymare

I remember Benvis Beachboard. Not only did he show horses, he also officiated many of the basketball games I played in. He was a good, honest official and always friendly. Wasn't his barn in Bell Buckle?
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everready

Benvis Beachboard was from Bell Buckle, he was allergic to penecilin,when i was just a kid when one of his horses would need a shot of pen. i would go out and do it for him. He use to raise Blooded Butcher Corn, best corn you ever ate.they use to call benvis (Buckboard)
Everett
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J441

Everready, your memory is much better than mine. You are right; Beachboard & Buckboard were the same person. Do you remember the twisted walking sticks he made? He gave me one after I insured a couple of horses with him.
After a horse event in Birmingham one night, he took the microphone in a small bar and started singing Jim Reeves songs without any backup music. Even the paid act sat and enjoyed. Benvis had a very nice singing voice. I'll drop you an email & we'll chat some more.
Saddletramp, we'll get together. Nickajack sounds good. My boat is just a 15.5' runabout trihull, 30 years old this year and looks it, but it's fun to be on the water.
Just a somewhat interesting note; when David Howard was with the Voice magazine, he wrote an article (cover story) about my dad and dubbed him "Mister Horsetrader USA". Dad enjoyed the title so much that after his wife Katie passed away and he bought the two adjoining grave sites so that he could be buried next to her. There is a single headstone for the two graves, and his side is marked "R.B. Hickey, Mister Horsetrader USA". I brought Dad to a sale a couple of years ago and Saddletramp had the issue, and gave it to Dad. Really made his day!
Off again, drop me a line sometime!
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everready

J441
I do remember the crooked walking canes that benvis made,i do remember your dad also, never seen him without his cowboy hat on.He bought and sold a lot of horses thru Murray Farm sales.Benvis did have a tragic end to his life, it was so sad.
my email
emajors@tampabay.rr.com
Everett
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everready

David and Christy
Look at this thread, its plum pitful the BEST thread on this ENTIRE SITE, i was the last post at 5:30 this morning its now 8:30pm, SHAME ON YOU.
WHAT A SHAME
Everett Majors
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horsetrainer

hey am a young guy but have really enjoyed this thread i loved hearing the storys of the past. im unable to affored this right now. i learned alot from here and am sad i wont be able to read anymore my email is horsetrainer06@yahoo.com someone email me if things change or if u have a good story.
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J441

Folks, I'll leave the thread on "History and Trivia" with a few statements/opinions about the future...
I do not trust the government. Whatever they appear to agree on will go out the window the week of Fayetteville, Belfast, & Wartrace. They want to get the most bang for their buck, and attacking during this week has proven to cause the most disheartening damage. When the USDA proves it can be consistent throughout the year and stop these tactics, I'll listen to them again.
This being said, bring the horses to the show clean. No excuses. This coming from an ex-trainer & horse trader who has seen and done many things. I cleaned up my act & found it to be very profitable while making it much easier to sleep at night. Never got written up, but changed for the better anyway.
Pointing our fingers at the faults in other breeds only makes the non-horse owning public think all horse owners are dirty. Stop. It does no good and makes no friends among the people who love the other breeds. We need to be accepted, not shunned.
Final note: don't think you can do whatever you want at the barn & come to the show clean. The detractors are much more educated and are not buying the bull. The horses will tell on you at inspection. Put your butt in the saddle and invest the time. The final product will be worth it & there will be no alternative soon anyway.
Know what makes this thread so great? All the fond memories and fellowship from years gone by. We owe it to the generations to come to preserve this industry.
I love Tennessee Walking Horses and most all the people associated with them.
Thanks again, Sarah Lynn! See you at Columbia or the Fun Show!!!

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headstrong

I've been a member of the site for awhile and hadn't been over to this thread for a little while and my oh my! Yall can talk and I just spent alllll evening going through all the pages I have missed and I sure have enjoyed it. I wish WHR would reconsider their charges. I used to get the paper but quit it when it became old news. I have really enjoyed it and if anyone wants to write personally I'd enjoy hearing from you. hillcrest@netease.net
This is such a shame.
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twhlady

Well foks, I'm here...........Seems rather lonesome. Any of you who arrive her, please say hello and we will continue our conversations. I truly hope we have not lost too many of our friends as a result of the changeover. Everyone must realize, this web site is absolutely the best source for news about our great horse and all our friends whom we know and love.

Sarah Lynn

PS - Please acknowledge that you are here.
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THE END


NOTE:

Actually there are a couple more pages to the original Walking Horse Trivia thread on the WHR site, but from this point on, most ALL of the regulars are GONE.

The thread continued for just a short while and finally fizzled out in June of 2007. Christy Parsons was the last poster on that thread.

This was one of the longest, interesting and FUN threads I have ever been a part of. It is a shame it had to end, but perhaps it worked out for the best in the long run.

But it really wasn't the end, was it?

After a lot of trial and error a new board was finally born in March of 2007. Unfortunately, we had some problems with the first board with hackers and all the information was lost. I made a new, temporary board, in December of that year, which we used before migrating to the current one. The following is some of the conversation from that board. I will be skipping around a little and leaving a few minor things out of this next segment, but some interesting chat here as well, with a little lighter and casual tone and with many of the same players. You will notice something different about this segment......this time around we have photos !!!

Trivia Board #2
Date: December, 2007
Topic: Who Dat?

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Everett





Who's Dat
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Mason

Mr Brantley and the BEST unknown Horsemen in TWH history Johnny Brown from Beautiful Beechgrove Tn
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Bubbadog

Whats that Talk's sippin on?
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smitty

You should be able to guess that Bubbadog!

By the way, I have been informed that Connie (Cbobo) had surgery last week and is home recovering. Let's keep her in our thoughts.
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Everett

Its gotta be JD, that was is favorite drink, so i was told
Everett
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Sadlbum

I believe the first picture is French Brantley, Charles' daddy (but I have been known to be wrong)
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Bubbadog

Smitty - it COULD have been George Dickel!
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Everett

Sadlbum
by golly i think you are right on being Mr French, he and Mr. Charlie looked a lot a like
Everett
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Everett



Who's Dis

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Grits

is it Master of Jazz at the UT football game
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Everett

Grits
Good guess but thats not him
Everett
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Graymare

It might be RPM at the UT football game.
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Everett

Graymare
You got the ballgame right, but its not RPM
Everett
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Sadlbum

How about OOPs? Otherwise, it could be Pat Rigual's Storm Threat but he wouldn't have been at a UT ballgame.

And does anyone else see a resemblence between Mr. Charlie and Henry Fonda? They have the same eyes, pug nose, color of hair and body build.
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smitty

Yeah, I see a resemblance.
I watched the Grapes of Wrath just the other day.
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Everett

Yep Sadlbum see it was OOPS
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Everett



Who Dat Baby Boy
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Graymare

That be Mr. Vernon, Ms. Gladys, and Baby Elvis.
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Everett

Graymare you ar right, that is Baby Elvis ,mom and dad
Everett
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Everett

Smitty was that Mr. French or Mr. Charlie Brantley, I thought for sure it was Charlie
Everett
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Everett

Mason
You and I have spent a lot of time in that ole Barn there in BeechGrove,Haven't we, remember that ole Tack trunk that set in the front crosstie by Steve's Office
Everett
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Mason

I think it was an old red wooden box wasn't it?
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Everett

Yep Mason , it was a Red Wooden Hand made Tack Box, course we all used it to set on, do you remember the Sweat Scrapers we used?it was the top of a Big Tin Can , nailed to a piece of wood shaped like a Paddle. That picture you sent me of Jessie, Jackie and Steve, Jessie was holding one of them
Everett
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smitty

Sadlbum was right,

The first photo is Mr. J. FRENCH Brantley, the pioneer of horse breeding in middle Tennessee.
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Everett

I can just barley remember Mr. French, He was an old man when i was born there, But I remember Mr. Charlie real well, saw him 7 or 8 yrs. ago when i went by Richard Myers barn in Manchester
Everett
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Grits

I should have known that was oops I have a picture of him on my dresser. On the way home from the 2005 Celebration I made up a game for myself, I would only get ball caps of two horses I thought would win. In 2006 I went 15 times to the four mac barn to see master of jazz I ask a young man if he was there and he ask me why I wanted to know and I told him that he was my pick to win, the young man smiled and lead me to his stall and I got to go in and pet him, what a thrill for me(almost wet my pants). The man gave me a hat and we all know how that season ended...
In 2007 master of jazz was my pick again so I got another hat (the first one was tatered and worn) and he won... I can't wait to keep up with the horses show stats this year to see if my luck holds up.
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Mason

Yes those scrapers were made out of coffee can lids......we used them when I worked there.Saved the bought ones for shows.....remember watering all those horses in that old tub?You would nearly freeze to death watering all those in the old barn...I loved it though....Steve was a good businessman...spent as little as anybody I've ever known for tack and etc.Remember he kept his show bridle in the trunk of his car.He told me once he used the same bit on all the WC he rode...Talking about Showmen he and Sam showed ALL the time..they never wore ballcaps and tennis shoes did they?When you saw them out they were dressed like successful horsemen.Not grease monkeys!
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Everett

Yep Mason those guys were first class act.I never seen either of them out that they weren't dressed to the nine's, thats who i mirrowed my self after, And Gentelman they both were
Everett
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Everett



Who's Dat
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Graymare

That would be Pop Gray.
Does anyone remember the year that Billy showed Ebony's Threat at the Fun Show? That was one fine animal that night - I got the cold chills watching him - I can't remember who won that night though. I think that it was 1981.
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Bubbadog

You are right, thats Billy Gray, what Horse is that?
The Reason I think Billy is one of, if not the Best Trainers in the Business in our era.Just look at his record.To become a GREAT Trainer, FIRST Thing You NEED , Is Good Stock to start with,and down thru the years Billy has had his share of The Best Prospects to Start Training ( Makes A Big Differance )Had Great Work Ethic's (Big Key )In my Opinion on showing, Including myself, I was Pretty Damn Good,There is NO One sets in the saddle and Presents a Horse Better than Billy Gray.
Everett
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Bubbadog

Oooops - I forgot the horse - that is Secret Threat
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Everett

Na Bubbadog, Look again
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Makethecut

Is the horse that Billy is riding Night Prowler?
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Bubbadog

Hey Tone - I know you right!

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Everett

Na Makethecut and Bubbadog look again
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smitty

E's not pullin yer leg,

That's not Night Prowler or Secret Threat or Bummin Around or Ebony's Threat or Josey Wales or Ritz.......

it's anuthern........
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Everett

Come on Bubbadog and Makethecut ya'll know what horse that is.
WGC
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Bubbadog

Huh uh I really don't know E - I thought that it was Secret.
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BigEd

Is that Ebony's Hostess?
Eddie
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Everett

Bubbadog
It is Delight Of Pride
Can you name the Trainer that had him Before Billy Him
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makethecut

Didn't the Edwards have him before Billy.
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Bubbadog

My two cents worth is going in with MaketheCut - I'm pretty sure that the Edwards brothers had him before Billy
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smitty

I am going to say Jimmy Holder had him.....
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Everett

Smitty
It was Jimmy Holder
Makethecut and Bubbadog , Edwards Bro's had him as a 3yr.old,
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Graymare

For the three guys picture, the one in the middle is Elvis. How do I know? Well, there are pictures of my hubby that look just like Elvis (and those that don't) but the one in the middle is nearly a copy of some I have of a very young Don. I have no clue who the other two are.
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Everett

Graymare
That is a very young Elvis and i don't know the other two neither, his bud's i guess
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Everett

Eddie
I had Jim Dixon come to Augusta Ga. and take a Picture of Ebony's Hostess a week before i sold her to Wink,It was the Best Unretouched picture of a 2yr.old you ever saw,her Head and ever leg was in the right place, even her ears was up, Dixon said it was the easyest money he ever made, didn't do nothing to it. I had it hanging in my Barn Office and someone Borrowed it, and it was the only one i had of her, Jim couldn't find the negetive of it, so i don't have No picture of her, She was the best colt i ever had, and might have been the best horse i ever had
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BigEd

I watched Gray work her many times. She could do as much as the picture of Delight of Pride. But was deeper and a little more strain.
Eddie
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Everett



Who's Dis?
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Jean

That would be HALL ALLEN
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Everett

Jean
By Golly you are right, its Hall Allen, i thought that might be a tough one
Everett
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Bubbadog

I think that you may have trouble fooling Jean - she's pretty sharp!
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Everett

Bubbadog, I think you are right, that girl pretty smart, i will see if we can fool her every once in a while
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Everett



Well Who's Dis?
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smitty

John Young
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Everett

Name of this guy, is what we use to call John
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Rambler

Looks like Teddy Roosevelt ... is that a hunting party or the Rough Riders?
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Everett

I don't know Rambler, but its not Teddy
Everett
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Rambler

Wow. No kidding. Sure looks like him. I'd a bet money, too.

Well, I think I can safely say that it's not Elvis.
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smitty

There was a famous country-western song written about the rider above, it was performed by Willie Nelson & Merle Haggerd and written by Townes Van Zandt.

Now you gotta name the person AND the song!
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Jean

I knew it was Hall Allen , because i have a picture of him since he is in my champagne horses pedigree. I try to get every one i can find. Welcome to our wacky world Rambler.
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sadlbum

makethecut wrote:
Is the horse that Billy is riding Night Prowler?


That is not Night Prowler, but whoever he is, He's a walking machine.
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Rambler

Thanks, Jean. It's great to be here. I'm having lots of fun.
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Larry

I believe the person "leading the charge" is Francisco Villa, better known as Pancho. TR, likely, would have been bespectacled.
Did Danny Forrester have Delight Of Pride as a younger horse --perhaps as a two y/o?

larry
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smitty

Larry,

You get the prize! That is indeed Ole Pancho Villa in his better days. The country song was "Pancho & Lefty" of course. As for Delight of Pride, I do believe he was started by Danny Forrester, maybe Everett will know for sure.

Glad you made it on here and I promise I won't ask you if you have another brother named Darryl.....
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Everett

Larry You are right, Danny Forrester did Break Delight of Pride as a 2 yr. old.
And Welcome aboard
Everett
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Everett



Its Satdy and I want to Dance ,Who's Dis
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Rambler

I got TR mixed up with Pancho Villa?? Good call about the glasses, Larry.
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Bubbadog

Larry Edwards and Generator
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Everett

Bubbadog, you are right thats Prides Generator, But i thought that was Gary
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Bubbadog

You right - Larry/Gary same thing
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smitty

[quote="Everett"]

That's got to be the biggest A S S end I've ever seen on a horse....
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Everett

Smitty
I think thats Air Brushed on
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smitty

E,

Are you sure? Well, why would they do that? Wonder what was wrong with the one he had?

dat baby got back!

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Everett

Just don't know, oh well pretty big though
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smitty

(Note: Image link lost)

WhoZat?
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grits

man, I run to town for a few minutes and y'all put up prides generator I could have got that one right 'cause it's my horses daddy..
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Jean

Is that Cheryl Crowe? She has a spotted horse that does tricks. He dont look too happy with the whip master
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sadlbum

Jean you look like Elmer McM------ niece from Ky. would I be correct? I live in the same town in Tn that he lived in & have sold you some old literature I think.
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smitty

That's Sheryl on her trick horse Lady C. who is a Pinto Tennessee Walking Horse.
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sadlbum

About a month ago I saw an old movie about Poncho Villa with Wallace Berry playing the main part. Can any of you folks name the other 2 generations of Berry's that were actors.
Hints Long John Silver Rockford Files Mama's House(Mayberry RFD)
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Everett

Sadlbum
Was one of those Berry Boys Jack or Gene Berry
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smitty

Rockford Files......that was a good one. Loved the theme song as well as the show. James Garner was the star, was he related to the Berrys?
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Jean

Sadlbum , you be right , i am the McMullin niece from Ky. ..... Is Noah Berry a son?
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BigEd

Ken Berry of MayberryRFD
Eddie
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Everett



Who's Dat
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BigEd

Margaret Hubbard? Browning? Roberts?
Maybe on Delights Red Cloud
Eddie
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sadlbum

1st generation actor was Wallace Berry who played Poncho Villa & Long John Silver with Jackie Cooper as Jim Hawkins. 2nd was Noah Berry who played Joey the clown on circus boy & Rocky, James Garners dad on Rockford files. 3rd was Ken Berry on Mayberry RFD & was a professional dancer.
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Everett

BigEd
Its not Red Cloud and it looks like Margret, but not sure of the rider there is no name of the rider, but try again
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rwitherington1

That's definitely Margaret. I remember the picture being in the Walking Horse Report and I was at their barn one time. She sits great in the saddle.
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Bubbadog

That is Margaret on Bama Bum B - Susan Hunter raised him - by Bumming Around out of her old pony Little Egypt who was by Merry Go Boy - he was a sporty little fellow and his purchase instigated lots of drama for years and years! I hear that Margaret and Lana Beavers now breed very nice King Charles Spaniels.
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Everett

Bubbadog
You are right thats Bama's Bum, and if you say thats Margret you should know, Eddie and I both thought so
Everett
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smitty

(Note: Image link lost)

Who Dat?
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sadlbum

At first glance I thought it was Richard Simmons (kidding) but this boy has straight hair so it can't be him. Thats probably a Go Boy bred horse he's on. I'm gonna guess the rider is you Smitty.
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smitty

Sadlbum
I think you may be right on the Go Boy breeding, but RICHARD SIMMONS????????

yeah........it's me!
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Everett



Who's Dis
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Bubbadog

Joe Martin - don't recognize the horse
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Everett

Bubbadog
Your are right, Its Joe Martin on Star of Tullos, I remember the name ,but not the horse, I got to get some Harder Stuff for you guy's,ya'll pretty Smart
Everett
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Mason

That Be ole Joe Martin...from Shell'vul . Saw Joe his wife, Ronnie-Irene Spears, Dick & Joyce Myers at the Strolling Jim Room in Wartrace eating yesterday. I had not seen Joe or Dick for years. He said he was working at Chad Williams. That remodeled Walking Horse Hotel is NICE ..worth seeing.Lots of OLD pictures.
I dont know that horse in the picture ,someone else is gonna have to tell us who that one is..whoever it is tis a good picture
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Everett

Mason
I remember Joe's Horses name, but i can't place the horse,Tis a good picture,seems to me like someone in LA. owned that horse, maybe the guy that owned Shades Of Carbon at one time, next time you run into Joe ask him, I want to go by that ole Hotel next time i'm up there
Everett
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Everett



Now Who's Dat
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sadlbum

I'm thinking the Hoss is Hunters Allen F10 & the lady up front is Miss Jean Hunter & the passenger I don't have a clue.
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sadlbum

I believe that this was a young mare that Mr Cecil Melton from Shebvul owned, but I can't put a name on her, this picture was probably in a Blue Ribbon from 1970 - 1985.
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Everett

Sadlbum
You right, Ya'll just plain Darn Good,Joe Martins horse 's name is Star of Tullos, and i can't remember that horse
Everett
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sadlbum

Joe Martins current wifes name is Cena (seena). Is the Wart race Hotel now open for business? Can 2 eat there for less than 30 dollurs? Me & my misses might have to check it out some Sundy. I like lookin at old pichurs.
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Bubbadog

Glen Loe bred and owned Star of Tullos gl
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Everett

Bubbadog
Thats who i thought owned him, wasn't he from LA
Everett
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smitty

(Note: Image link lost)

Who Datn?
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Mason

DEE DEE & that Horse I cant spell his name MASK something
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Mason

Sadlbum...I laid down $45 for the buffet and tip....I went to the opening a few weeks ago one night and was VERY impressed...but was not at all thrilled about the buffet Sunday..They had a live Jazz band,and they were great but the food was VERY ordinary..Had rather gone to Mings in Tullahoma and would have spent about 14 bucks.OR the Bellbuckle Cafe...I love the Hotel... it is unbelievable..hes spent a fortune, but I doubt I'll go back to the buffet..HOPE they improve...just MY opinion dont let that stop you from trying it..I WANT him to make a go of it for sure..That place is a piece of history I want to see preserved.
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grits

On the subject of the Hotel, we stopped in a few years ago to check it out for our next years Celebration lodging and the owner was giving us a brief history of the place, in my witty sense of humor I ask if it was haunted. She replied it was and told of strange footsteps heard by guest. Does anyone know if it is true or was she just jearkin my chain.
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makethecut

About Star of Tullos.
His original name was Ace's Superstar(one of the best 3 year olds i've ever seen). He was bred by Lamar Nash Buford ,Ga.and out of a Spirit of Midnight mare that he bought at the Sugarloaf Farms dispersal sale. Charlie Daniels bought him as a colt and later sold him to Mr.Lowe who changed his name.
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Bubbadog

See ya'll Tony knows EVERYTHING in detail!
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makethecut

I know very little, but I happened to be at Flip Cook's barn the day that Dr. Rand induced the mare.

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Bubbadog

NOT TRUE NOT TRUE! Don't bust my bubble Tone - I view you as a being of ENORMOUS intellect - mainly I am fascinated that you REMEMBER so much given your advancing age!
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smitty

(missing image)


Who?
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Everett

Bubbadog
I think Makethecut is right, I do remember that Colt now, I judged Alanta show at Stone Moutian Ga,Joe showed this colt as a 2yr. old, BEST 2 yr. old I EVER seen,and won the class, but was all over the ring, and found out later he was a MEAN sucker.He could stick his back Legs futher under him than any horse I ever saw, I now remember Mr. Loe buying him and changing his name.
Everett
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Bubbadog

Okay - was that when the show was at Stone Mountain and it was FREEZING? I remember him now too - but didn't know that you were judging that show - that would have been around 1973 or 74 - right?
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Everett

I'm thinking around that time, but i don't recall it being that cold, course back then i would take a nip or two, and don't recall the weather, but i do remember that horse, Bad Puppy
Everett
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Everett

Bubbadog they were 3 judges, Me, Don Bell, and i can't remember the 3rd
Everett
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Everett

Smitty
Is that Will Rodgers ?
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smitty

Yes, that's Will Rogers....

One of the most famous and adored Americans ever. Cherokee-American cowboy, comedian, humorist, social commentator, vaudeville performer and actor.

He "never met a man he didn't like."
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smitty

grits wrote:
On the subject of the Hotel, we stopped in a few years ago to check it out for our next years Celebration lodging and the owner was giving us a brief history of the place, in my witty sense of humor I ask if it was haunted. She replied it was and told of strange footsteps heard by guest. Does anyone know if it is true or was she just jearkin my chain.

Grits,

According to MANY sources, the hotel is one of the most haunted places in the state of Tennessee. Believe what you will, but I have looked up some info on that subject and have heard it was used as a hospital for soldiers during the Civil War. I have also heard one room in particular is extra-haunted. Here is a link to more info in the Times-Gazette:

http://www.t-g.com/story/1286155.html
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sadlbum

Grits,

It was built after the Civil War & there haint no sech thangs as ghostes.
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grits

Sadlbum, after reading that story smitty found I would keep an open mind. There may not be ghostes but there is some spirits in that ol place an I ain't talkin bout the ones you drink...
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smitty

Grits,

It is important to separate what is myth and what is fact concerning these stories about ghosts, UFOs and even Bigfoot. Sadlbum is probably right about the hotel being built after the war, so those rumours about it being a Civil War hospital are obviously false. However, I think there have been enough reports of strange occurences at the hotel to say there is indeed may be be some sort of repeating phenomena going on there.

I have seen enough strange things in my days to know better than to rebuke and scoff at those who claim to have seen strange things. All it takes to change your point of view on these things is something strange happening to you just ONE TIME. We like to thing as human beings that we are the highest form of intelligence there is and that we have the answer for everything, but we are fools to think that way. There are not logical explanations for everything and we should keep an open mind.
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grits

Well, it is really a cool place BUT I don't think anyone wants to see me runnin' down the interstate in my P.J's in the middle of the night (I spook easy and I am skeert of the dark) so I will visit it in the day and maybe have lunch there when I go to the Celebration this year.
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Guest

Grits,
Had to laugh If you go running down the interstate in your night attire from the Walking Horse Hotel, in beautiful downtown Wartrace, you will have been frightened beyond belief. It is several miles from the hotel to the interstate. Sorry, just couldn't resist
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smitty

Grits,

If you git spooked you can call Mason to come pick you up. He don't live too far up the road.

The absolute strangest stories of paranormal activity I have EVER heard of come out of UTAH. I was out there a few years back and it is indeed a strange, but also oddly beautiful place. Has anyone ever heard of the Gorman Ranch up in northeast Utah? If you haven't, let me say that the strange activities up there are both so BEYOND BELIEF as to be unbelievable, yet at the same time, so well-documented that it cannot be refuted that something very, VERY ODD is going on there. This is some of the strangest stuff you will ever hear about....

Read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinwalker_Ranch
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grits

Smitty there would only be one I would call and thats the good Lord beggin him to not let my feet fail me now, I wouldn't even look back till I was well past the Ga. line... Tennessee's finest, road blocks or spike strips could stop me...
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Bubbadog

Smitty I had heard of this ranch years ago but had never researched it - it sure does seem to be a busy place - I am fascinated with paranormal activity. This place is going to entertain me for a while.
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grits

Bubbadog have you seen the show paranormal state, it's pretty good, some of the shows give me the willies..
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Everett



Who's Dat
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BigEd

Looks like Joe Webb.
Eddie
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Bubbadog

It's Joe Webb - don't know the horse -
Grits - I kind of like that Paranormal State show - I watched it last night after mdnight when I was at home all by myself and I don't think that I'm going to do that again - it's extremely creepy. You notice how several of the episodes have involved children?
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Everett

Eddie and Bubbadog That is Joe Webb
But what Horse is that, Think about it
Everett
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grits

Bubbadog, we can't talk about them ghostes anymore, a few hours ago I was walkin out the back door and one pushed me off the bottom step and I landed on the concrete floor. I'm ok just scraped, bruised and a few muscles begining to get sore... Noooo, I'm not kidding, I haven't fallen down since my last good drunk and that was many years ago.
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BigEd

Carbon Copy or The Entertainer
Eddie
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Everett

Eddie
Its Carbon Copy as a 2Yr.old
Everett
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grits

When did the white cinch become popular? I don't have the answer, that's why I'm asking...
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Everett

grits
As long as i can remember, I think from the beginning of showing of our great Breed
Everett
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Bubbadog

Grits did you really fall? You okay? I don't think that the ghost pushed you - did you do something to make it mad? Just tell it to go on and it probably will - unless it's mad.
I don't remember ever seeing horses shown in anything other than white girths - ya'll remember WHITE shoe polish and canvas girths? Boy shoe polish came in handy in a show barn didn't it? How many uses can we come up with for shoe polish?
Remember the colored girths that matched the breatstraps? Now that was a BUTT ugly fashion - I think that I showed with one a couple of times that was black.
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smitty

Those CANVAS girths got me by in my early years of showing pleasure horses. That white shoe polish would make em kind of STIFF wouldn't it? Later on I showed with a girth that matched my headband (white/red center).

THOUGHT it was pretty cool back then!

(hit don't look so good now.....)
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grits

Yes Bubbadog I did, ker splat off the step onto the concrete floor. I am bruised and sore but that too shall come to pass. My husband said if he could replay my thought pattern there was a horse thought involved and I wasn't paying attention, my father welcomed me to the golden years (mine will be known as the rusty ones) and my sister-in-law wants to get me the HELP I'VE FALLEN and CAN'T GET UP BUTTON...
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BigEd

I remember those matching girths, breast straps. They were butt ugly.
Had a customer who bought a yellow/white set for his horse. I hated it and would take his horse to shows without em. He would ask where they were and I would say I forgot them. That only worked for awhile and eventually I had to use them. I throwed them in when we sold the horse.
Whew!!
Eddie
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Everett

Eddie
I used a Black one in and about that time and it didn't look to bad, but i've seen as you have about every color in the book, that Fad was as Bad as Liesure Suits
Everett
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Everett



Who's Dis
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Larry

Was the picture made in Wartrace? Note the building in the back ground?
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Everett

Larry
We really don't know, hoping someone could recognize the Horse
Everett
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sadlbum

This is alledgedlly F38 (see Voice april 94 page 44), I argued with Charles Brantley one time that this wasn't the same horse that his Dad French had his picture taken on ( see Voice may 94 page 34), but He said that this was when the horse was a younger animal. I don't believe this was F38 either. Are you wanting someone to say this is Brooks Allan? The house could have been where the Brantley's house stands now, or some where in the Noah community.
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smitty

Sadlbum,

We don't really know what horse this is, and I'm not sure it's ever really been proven for sure. According to the info on WWest, this photo has been the source of much disagreement for many years.

Personally, I don't think it's F-38 either. The hocks are too straight and the markings don't quite match up on the front legs in my opinion. I looked at a number of horses I THOUGHT it might be, but the markings don't seem to match on the front legs of any of them.


???????????
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smitty

(missing image)

Who Dis?
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sadlbum

Me tinks he mite be Kurt Waldheim the former president of the U.N. that visited the Celebration some time ago. But it cud be sumvon else like Henry Kissenger or an old thorobred trainer. Maybe even Rochesters "Boss" Jack Benny. Its definitelly not Richard Simmons.
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smitty

All good guesses, but not correct. (kinda looks a little like Woody Allen to me!??) But this gentleman died in the 70's and left his mark on the Walking Horse World OUTSIDE of the show ring.

He was the FIRST to do several things.......

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Everett

I know that face, just can't put a name to it
Everett
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Everett



Who's Dat
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sadlbum


I believe that this was Toby Green & Go Boys Rocket or maybe Suns Gunsmoke. Or it might even be old Steve Hill on Suns Eldorado.
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sadlbum

I think then this might be George Lee Lennox & he would have paid the most ever for a W Hoss when he bought Carbon Copy.
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smitty

I thought somebody would know this one, but I guess I was wrong.

This is Ben Green, author of "Biography of the Tennessee Walking Horse" which was, I believe, the first book about the breed in 1959. Mr. Green also started the "Voice" in 1962.

Here is more info on Ben Green:

http://www.fourcraftsmen.com/ben.htm
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Everett

Sadlbum
You are right, thats Toby Green and Go Boy's Rocket, when i worked for Toby he talked a lot about that horse
Everett
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Everett



Who's Dis
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Bubbadog

Steve Hill and Hill's Perfection
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Everett

Bubbadog
Right on , I think Hill's Perfection has done more as for promoting this Great Breed than any Horse in our life time
Everett
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Bubbadog

I KNOW that's the truth - did you ever get to ride him? Charlie BoBo could tie the reins on his neck and send him down the hall of that barn with no one on his back - I don't think that there has been another one like him has there?
Is there any video of him for those on here who never had the privilege of seeing him?
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Everett

I rode him a bunch of times when Mr. Charlie had him, EVERYTIME i went to Tn. i Always stopped at Bobo's cause i wanted to see some gooden's.Bill, Charles and myself are close to the same age, Bill's a little younger than Charles and myself and i always rode somin when i went by there.I'm not saying this cause Connie is on here, she knows i always come by to see the guys and there stock,Myself,Bill, Charles ,Sammy, Phillip Wilson, and Ernie Cook use to pick a little music
Everett
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cb

Everett, All the Bobo children learned to ride on Hill and he taught others as well. He was a great teacher! I remember after we decided not to show him anymore Mr. Perot wanted Bill to keep him a year and just use him at different shows and events. He wanted Hill to be an ambassador for the Walking horse. One of the places he was asked to attend was the MTSU homecoming game.........He was great until he saw those lines and then he would give a little bunny hop over it.LOL He carried the flag at many shows that year.
He is buried in Mr. Perot's front yard. Ross,Jr. named his business after Hill.
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Everett



Who's Dat
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sadlbum

Its definitely Steve Hill on my first guess is Mr. Sensation, my second guess would be Talk of the Town.
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Everett

Sadlbum
You got the rider right,guess again on the Hoss
Everett
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Bubbadog

Merry Wilson?
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sadlbum

How about Go Boy's Sensation or Go Boy's Souveneir?
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Everett

Not neither one of those Sadlbum and Bubbadog
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Bubbadog

OKAY THEN WHO BE'S IT?
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Everett

That is SUN'S BIG SHOT and Steve
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sadlbum

Evret, Did Steve Have Bigshot before Livingstons bought him & put him with J.B. Smith? They owned ole Sun.
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Everett

Sadlbum
I think so, i'm thinking steve had him as a young horse, mason might remember
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Mason

I THINK thats J.B. Smith and Suns Big Shot...dont believe thats Steve?
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Everett

Picture says its Sun's Big Shot, it looked liked Steve, but i could be wrong on the rider, if so ,sorry
Everett
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Everett



Who's Dat
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Jean

Looks like Mike Motes, and would the hoss be Royal Flush?
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Everett

Jean
That is Mack, but try again on the Hoss
Everett
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Everett

Folks the horse Mack is riding is a FULL brother to a WGC
Everett
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makethecut

Is it Johnny Midnight?
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Everett

Makethecut
That is Johnny Midnight
Everett
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smitty



Any idea Who Dat?

(1969)
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Everett

I know but i wll wait and see if anyone else gets it
Everett
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Everett

Smitty
I think thats 1968 WGC Go Boy's Royal Heir, don't know the rider
Everett
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Everett



Who's Dat
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sadlbum

The next to last horse was Royal Heir & Donald Paschal had a Vol band coat on & Ole Heir was racking a hole in the ground.
The last rider is Vic Thompson & Probably on Mr Sensation or Suns Celebration.
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Everett

Sadlbum
Vic Thompson is right , but try again on the Hoss
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smitty

The horse above on the football field was sent in by Cbobo.

She did not know who it was and neither do I. However, it does have a white sock like Royal Heir and the rider indeed looks a little like Paschal.

If you all know for sure, then I'll take your word for it.
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sadlbum

I guessed at the horse, this horse was shown between 50 & 55, the names I picked were after that, I'll let someone else try.
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Everett

Smitty
99.9% Royal Heir and Donald
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Everett

Sadlbum
Thats Sun's Glory O that Vic's is riding and i would think early 50's

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Sadlbum

Its before 56, because thats the fust yr they used boots.
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smitty



Who Dey?
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sadlbum

Dey wud bee Mr. J. French Brantley uf de Noie community of Coffee County Tennycee & Suns Allandorf. (2nd ges on de hoss is Honey Masterpiece).
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Everett



Who Dat
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sadlbum

What about the old man & horse first of all, was I correct??????

The new picture, the bay horse, I haven't a clue, the rider is LARRY EDWARDS.
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Everett

Sadlbum
Smitty put that picture up, French Brantley is right,not sure on the Hoss, but smitty will post that, I jumped the gun by putting the other picture before getting the answer on smittys
That is Larry Edwards and i will post the name of the horse if no one guess's in a little while
Everett
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Bubbadog

Is that Red Streaker?
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Everett

Bubbadog and Sadlbum
That Lady is in Command and Larry Edwards, I don't remember her, but thats a red ribbon must have been pretty good
Everett
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sadlbum

BubbaDawg
Believe your right on Ebonys Red Streaker!
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Everett

Sadlbum
The Mare that larry is riding is That Lady is in Command, Red Streaker was Sorrell
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smitty

Sadlbum,

You are correct,

Sun's Allendorf & Mr. Brantley.
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Everett



Who's Dat
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sadlbum

Wild guess - Pride of Merry Gold
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Everett

Try again Sadlbum,He's Black and a WGC
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sadlbum

Without seeing some facial markings or the shape of his years, I couldn't do no good. The bit doesn't look very new, but its not ancient either. But I will take one more stab at it & say Mark of Carbon.
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Everett

Sadlbum
That one is sorty tough not seeing the front view, you were close, it is Carbon Copy
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smitty

I notice on this picture of Carbon Copy above, that he is wearing one of those old (tacky?) DIAMOND headbands and noseband to match. Those things were popular at one time, but I thought they were a bit GAUDY even back then.

My mom bought one of the diamond headbands for her trail horse. It made roman-nosed Old Smokey look like the richest lookin hoss ever to come down a gravel road!
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sadlbum

Reckon Porter WAGNER & Glenn CAMBULL Came up with these RHINESTONES. (Porters suits & Glenns song)
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Bubbadog

I remember those old rhinestone things when they were past their prime and the "jewels" would fall out and they would wind up on work bridles - they were really sad looking then.
Later on there were the nice patent leather bands that had the rhinestones embedded - I kind of liked them.
Did any of ya'll ever show on patent leather saddles?
What kind of saddle did ya'll prefer?
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smitty



Who Dat?
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sadlbum

Brantley's Roan Allen (F38) Junior Sorry about the abbreviation

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Everett

Would that be Brantleys Roan Allen Jr.
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smitty

You guys are correct once again. That's Brantley's Roan Allen Jr. The pattern on his neck and shoulders is quite unique and unmistakable, is it not?

The picture of J. French Brantley sitting on Roan Allen Jr. is one of my favorite old horse pictures for some reason.
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Everett



Who's Dat
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sadlbum

That is White Star, the 54 WGC with Percy Moss from Bastrop Louisiana aboard. (Did any of you, Know him & if so, what kind of guy was he?)
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Everett

Sadlbum
You are right , I never met Percy but Steve Hill said he was a good fellow, like to party like most of us do, known to take a Sip or two
Everett
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sadlbum

Did Percy show much after he won the WGC? I don't remember him & I started watching the shows in 67.
(Everett, would you go to " Best WGC thread" & read my last comments)
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Everett

Sadlbum
I am sure he did, thinking back now i think i did meet him at Steve's barn at the celebration Grounds one year.Seems i remember he died at a pretty young age, maybe mason would know
Everett
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smitty

I love the photo of White Star above.
Something about it looks very old-timey..........or is it just the hat?
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Graymare

I remember one of the horses that he had was sort of a different color. I think the name was Le Baron de Bastrop. That horse was sort of a light brown color (not sure what to call it...not sorrell or chestnut or palomino) and he had a grayish mane and tail. That might not have been a natural color though, since you know "in the day" often the color of the poodle, the mane and tail, and the lady's hair were dyed to match.
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smitty

(image missing)

Who Dat?
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sadlbum

David (Ackerman) Mason (aka STRANG BEAN)
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Everett



Who's Dat
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smitty

Stringbean, also known as David Akeman was from Anneville, Kentucky, up in Jackson County. He was an old time banjo picker and used to broadcast on WLAP out of Lexington. He was a member of Bill Monroe's outfit in the old days. He and Grandpa Jones were regulars on Hee Haw for many years where Stringbean was noted for his bewildered expression and self-deprecating remarks.

Stringbean's life came to a tragic end when he and his wife were murdered by burglars who had broken into their house in Nashville.

Here's some more info on Stringbean:

http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/stringbean/bio.jhtml
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Everett

Picture above was pretty tough, it was Big Man's Velvet
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Everett

Well Who's Dat



(this was a junior world champion and a Harlinsdale horse)
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smitty

I forgot to mention that this week's photos on Who Dat will ALL be direct descendants of MIDNIGHT SUN.
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Rambler

That reminds me (thanks, Graymare)... way back when I was a kid, I saw a walking pony of a color that I can't place. Even though that was <cough>ty years ago, I never forgot what this horse looked like. (Forgive me for using non-horse terms) -- like a palomino but with a silver mane, a bronze-colored coat with a dapple print to it. Kinda like a Rocky, but with that dapple pattern on the haunches. I've seen Shetland ponies that color. No photos, but I remember it was in a walking pony class. I only saw it at one show -- the Owen County Fair. So, I reckon this is a "What's Dat?" question.
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sadlbum

I think this was Steve Hill on Suns Big Shot.
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Everett

Sadlbum
You got Steve right, but try again on the Hoss

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Mason

Five Minutes to Midnight
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Everett

Mason You are right, it's Five Minutes to Midnight
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Everett



Ok Who's Dat
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sadlbum

I recognize the rider as Sam Paschal, but since I don't remember ever seeing this picture before, I don't recognize the Equine. I would be interested in knowing what magazine this picture was in & who shot it?
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Everett

Sadlbum
I don't know the Mag. or who took the picture, my guess would be Sargent,This Horse sired a Great 15.2 horse that has won multi blues at the celebration,that background looks like it was taken at Mr. Sam's place, thats the kind of fence he had at his stable
Everett
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sadlbum

I have just talked to my good buddy, who told me to guess Midnight Ike on the other picture. He told me this was Midnight Bomb. He would be kin to Ebonys Midnight Bomb & Bombs Ballyhoo. With the bug eyes that was Sargents trademark. He took EBS picture that was on March 62 Voice, the first one.
My friend said IKE was alledgedlly the sire of GO BOYS BIG SHOT.
He knew Percy Moss & said, He trained Racking hosses in the 60's & 70's in Arkansas, had a son named Sonny that did too. He described Percy the same way that I've heard Marvin Wilson described. He said Percy died sometime in mid to late 70's. If he was 25ish when he won the WGC, that would put him at about 45 or 50 at death, purty young!
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Everett

Sadlbum
You have a Very Smart friend, that is Midnight Bomb, I was thinking That 15.2 Bomb horse that Ronald Young had was by Midnight Bomb, then again he might have been by Ebony after thinking about it, wasn't his name Ebony's Midnight Bomb.As for Percy Moss i had heard the same thing
Everett
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sadlbum

Ebony's Midnight Bomb's maw was more than likely by Midnight Bomb.

Everette & or Mason, which of Steve Hills horses did you help train? Have you ever been seriously hurt while working with horses? What men did you work with while at Steves? Did you ever come to Manchester very much? Were the walkers & cavisons valuable tools in working with the horses? Did you ever meet Billy Duncan or Dwain & Harriette Clark some of Steves longest running customers? Have you heard of EEF Hoover that bought Wilson Allen with Steve just before the old Horse died.

My wife & I went to Church in Hillsboro a few Sundays ago & afterwards went to the only Cafe in Pelham & while going there, saw a Wilson Allen Lane, Thats where Mr BF Wilson lived that the old Hoss took his name from. (in this area we have roads named after Brantleys, Henry Davis & Floyd Carothers also)
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Everett

Sadlbum
I was just a kid when my dad worked for Steve, I broke colts there when i was about 10 yrs. old and worked after school and summers until i was about 15, I remember 5 Mins. to Midnight and Talk of the Town, Spirit of Midnight and Hills Perfection, when i was a kid Manchester was a long way from home for us, went to the fair there when growing up, we moved to Steves from Mr. Brantleys when i was about 7 or 8 yrs. old.Yes Walkers and caversions were VERY Helpful when i was growning up, i do remember Billy Duncan and The Clarks, but don't remember a lot about them and also mr. Eeef HooverI went for 35 yrs. training with out getting hurt, then in 1995 a horse fell with me and messed up 2 Disc in my lower back and had to quit riding, still miss it today as much as ever
Everett
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sadlbum

I think riding horses is good for muscular disorders in the back, but the spine is a different issue altogether. One of my brothers inlaw had disc surgery & it did him a world of good. But I've heard of others that it didn't help at all, maybe even made them worse. I remember my inlaw stepped over a log to retrieve his ball while playing golf & his back went out. He layed flat on his back in the bed of my truck, while I hauled him back to Woodbury from Manchester. He lost the use of one of his legs until he had the surgery. I've had some back or shoulder problems as of lately, but its better, after going to just one pillow. I also try to walk at least 2 miles per day, even when its cold, like now. I used a throw away painting mask over my nose & mouth yesterday.
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Everett

Sadlbum
I've had 2 back Operations on L4 and L5, if i had listen to my Dr and quit riding horses after the first operation. i would not have had the 2nd one, Still hurt but with some Meds. i can function.But i can't ride anymore just scared too.
Everett
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Everett



Who's Dat
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sadlbum

Everette, whoever it is, he sits a horse, sorta like Buddy Hugh, Does'nt hold his reins like Buddy though. I've seen the picture before, don't have a clue who the horse is, but my guess is, the rider is YOU. (maybe even Guy Whitener Jr. on Merry Boys Secret or Setting Suns Delight)
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Everett

This Trainer was from N.C. This was a stake horse he showed and won a lot with, tied in the ribbons at the celebration down low a couple of times, he was by Midnight Sun
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sadlbum

I think it has come to me on who it is & I think its Kenny Price & King of The Road. Whatever happened to Kenny.
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Everett

Sadlbum
That is Kenny Price and After Sun, Kenny was killed in a car crash, i'm thinking late 70's
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Everett



Who's Dat
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smitty

I don't know but I like his STYLE
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Bubbadog

Not Carlton Pitts? I don't know -
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smitty

I think the horse above was a Amateur World Champion in the 50's.....
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sadlbum

Percy Moss & Baron de Bastrop.
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Everett

Sadlbum, try again
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Everett

Sadlbum
I bet your ole buddy knows who that horse is
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sadlbum

I haven't seen that shot before, I'll guess Joe Webb or Jim Messenger, but the horse was before my time. (prob before 55)
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Everett

That is Midnight Mike, I don't remember him either, Smitty do you know anything about him
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smitty

I did some research on him.

The horse actually won the Amateur Rider Not From Tennessee class at the Celebration in 1956. The rider's name is Earl McCoy and he is from Indiana. This horse was also a Ohio champion of some sort.
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sadlbum

Everett wrote:
That is Midnight Mike, I don't remember him either, Smitty do you know anything about him
I do, he was the sire of Pam Reed or Gallagers WGC pony MIkes Mighty Man & I thought I Recognized the way that guy held his reins, thats a very young Charlie BoBo, I think.
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Everett



Who's Dis
Remember these Horses are by Midnight Sun
Fill in the Blanks Midnight s---n
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sadlbum

Who's Dis
Remember these Horses are by Midnight Sun
Fill in the Blanks Midnight -----
I don't Know the Horse but I think the rider is JOE URQUHART?
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Everett

Sadlbum
I think you are right on the rider, check the picture again, I put in the First and Last letter of his name
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sadlbum

SATIN?????
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Everett

Sadlbum
You got it --Midnight Satin
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Everett


Who's Dat

Midnights ---- Sun
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sadlbum

I don't reckin I've seen this shot before, I'll guess the rider is Preach Fleming.
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Everett

Its not Preach and the picture don't say who the rider is
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sadlbum

Everett
I have most all TWH literature that has been published, at least I thought I did & I haven't seen this before. I'll guess Midnights Gold Sun. I thought about this at lunch & remembered a horse that a Mr Poteet had & I think Vickie Lynn Thompson showed & his name was Go Boys Wonder, But I guess I thought long & Wrong! I'd like to know what this picture was in.
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Everett

Sadlbum
That is Midnights Gold Sun, don't know the rider, smitty might know where the picture came from
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smitty

Midnight's Gold Sun was the 1956 Amateur World Champion with Dr.
Authur Glover of West Virginia riding.
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smitty

TGIF!!!

(image missing)

Who Dey?
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Everett

Is that them Australian Wrestlers

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Bubbadog

Bushwhackers
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sadlbum

Thats my wifes favorite rasslin Tagteam. The Bushwhackers, from New Zealand or Australia. They only had one cap & the one outside the rope was supposed to wear it, that way they could keep up with where they were suppose to be. They wore Camo & combat boots & were extremelly MACHO, at least thats what my wife thought! Luke Williams & Butch Miller
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 smitty

The Bushwhackers were my favorite wrasslin team.
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smitty



Now Who Dat???
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Graymare

Isn't that Benvis Beachboard? I have no idea what the horse is.
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sadlbum

I think the rider was J.B. Smith, Looks like he won a stake class at a big show, I'll guess the horse was either Go Boys Big Shot or Suns Big Shot.
This horse, in picture looks a Blue Roan & I think thats what the Go Boy Horse was. I agree the man looks sorta like Benvis, but he never won anything in that big a magnitude. My next guess would be Winston Wiser on Go Boys Souvineer.
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Everett

Sadlbum
I think you are right, Winston and Souviner
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smitty

Thanks to Mason for the photo.


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sadlbum

You'ins, Look how long Souvineers natural feet & the shoes are. There appears to be a wedge between the hoof & shoe. This would show the coming of pads in 56.
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smitty

Interesting bout the pads.

I have several questions. Did the breed start out using only ONE pad? How did the pads progress?

Also, had the Industry EVER had a LIMIT on number of pads that could be used? I know they had a rule on angles/wedges. That may be a stupid question, but I forget....

"Let's get down to brass tacks." By the way......

(missing image)

Who Dat?
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BigEd

About pads. I know that Tennessee Rebel had two flat pads (leather) when he won the gelding WC in 1950. Other than the 50% rule that is in effect currently. I remember sometime in the early 80's they made the rule that you could have a maximum of 4" of pads. Maximum shoe thickness of 1/2". The 1" HEEL/TOE ratio has been around at least 38 years. The 1" Heel/Toe ratio was abolished for one show season as part of the interim rules that the govt. established the year Judge Gash took the pads when the trainers show was shut down. Maybe 87/88??
Eddie
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Jean

looks like Ross Perot to me.
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Everett



Who's Dat
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sadlbum

Looks like H Ross Perot Sr. (top) & Jr. & Hills Perfection (bot.)

Big Ed, Did Bob Hughes ride Tn Rebel & did he disguise the leather pads or spacers? He was also a Farrier. I was'nt around then but I could imagine that a few started using pads & winning with them & then the whole industry going with them. Shadow won in 55 without them & with them in 56.
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Everett

Sadlbum
its not Hills Perfection, this was before his time, these old pictures are sometimes hard to get.
That is Midnight Merry Bird ,don't know the rider
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Mason

Harold Wise is the rider
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BigEd

Sadlbum,
Bob Waggoner rode Rebel. He carried 5# lead in one foot and 6# in the other. With long hooves, you can hull them out real good. The purpose of the pads were to hold the lead in the hoof and to accomodate a longer shoe. They were interested in hiding the lead. Grandad told me that most horses had at least one leather very early on. It was considered a big deal when Go Boy won with a keg shoe.
Eddie
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smitty



Who da Kid?
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Everett

Do you guys remember we use to cut out blocks in the Pads to insert Mercury Blocks , never could get that to work for me
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Bubbadog

SMITTY - I CAN'T SEE THAT CHILD'S FACE
YEAH E - I REMEMBER THOSE MERCURY BLOCK THINGS - WHO THOUGHT THEM UP?
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Everett

Bubbadog, i'm thinking Groover or joe webb
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sadlbum

My wife said it looks like my pictures, when I was A youngun, But I'll guess it was Jimmy "Orion" Ellis.
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Bubbadog

YEP - THAT'S WHO IT IS - I REMEMBER SEEING THE PICTURE BEFORE - HE LOOKED A LITTLE LIKE WINKY, BUT THE PICTURE WAS TOO OLD.
E - I BET YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE MERCURY BLOCKS - WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT CONCEPT NOW, IT'S REALLY KIND OF AMUSING - AIN'T IT?
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Everett

Bubbadog, the concept sounds like logic, the way its suppose to work, just didn'd see the right kind of results. some of them TIGHT shoulder horses wouldn't use them front legs no matter what you done
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smitty

That is Jimmy Ellis of Orrville, Alabama riding Merry Little Lady. Mason sent that one in. Didn't think Yall'd git it that EASY!

but ya did......
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Larry

Let's see who travels and where they eat. An important sire of Tennessee Walking Horses is honored with a plaque in the foyer of a restaurant just off an Interstate.

1. Name the horse.

2. Name the restaurant.

3. Name the town.
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sadlbum

Larry
Was it at the Holiday Inn on I24 in Manchester?
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Larry

There may be one at Manchester but not the one I have in mind. Clue: Not in middle TN. Think I-40, west.
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makethecut

There used to be a picture of a walking horse(not sure who it was) at a Shoney's in Ashville, N.C.
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Larry

You got one third of it. Its in a Shoney's.
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Everett

The Pusher
Shoneys
Knoxville
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Larry

OK, its Shoney's --Jackson, TN. Now can you name the horse?
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smitty

Just a WILD guess..........Carbon Copy?
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Everett

I will guess, Midnight Sun
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Everett



Who's Dat
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Mason

Now you know us ole folks dont know who that is!
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Everett

Mason
Look at that picture closer, you should know that rider, you might not recognize the horse
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sadlbum

I'll guess its Link Webb on his Bro inlaws (Scot Beaty) hoss Generators My PaPa.
But the horse could be Generators Champion or Broken Promises!
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Everett

Sadlbum
You got the rider right,Thats Link Webb riding, - ---- -- ---?
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sadlbum

Everett
I'll take a shot at "A SHOT OF GEN". Last Fri I Sold his owner some books. At least he use to own him when he was standing at Bridlewood.

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Everett

Sadlbum
You got it, A Shot of Gen with Link Webb and he was a nice horse
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sadlbum

Everett
I would never have guessed correctly, If you hadn't put the spaces in for me to go by, Thanks Man
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Larry

Just a WILD guess..........Carbon Copy? Good guess. I think CC spent a lot of time in West Tennessee. In a phone call I learned that the plaque is now displayed outside and not as conspicuous as before. It says roughly:

"In memory of Merry Boy
1925-1958
Sire of WGC Black Angel
Sire of WGC Merry Go Boy
Eight times WC; Two times WGC
Sire of Merry Walker, dam of Go Boy's Shadow and Rodger's Perfection
Final home in Jackson, TN Owner George Williams
Managers, Joe Bobbitt and Lawrence Smelson
Marker is 500 yards from stables where Merry Boy died
Erected by Horsemen of West Tennessee, September 1985".

Answer: Shoney's, Jackson, TN, Merry Boy.
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sadlbum

Larry
Good info! (Mr Albert Dement sold the wrong horse, When He sold Merry Boy & kept Last Chance.)
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Mason

Yes I see who it is now...Lets give him an A for sitting up straight!
Mason
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Larry

Do you remember John Wayne's horse's name in El Dorado?
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sadlbum

Larry
No I don't remember, but is this the movie, that they rode down into the river to talk to some Mexicans about getting their horses back, That had been stolen? The head Mex Asked John W if he had brought Gold to buy back their Horses & John said NAW! Then the Mex asked, Well Senor what did you bring? & John said all I brought was some LEAD & SHOT him.
When they got back up to the wagon train, An old Lady asked John why He had shot the Mex & John said "Well Mam, I guess the coversation just dryed up".
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Everett

Mason
Link does set in the saddle right
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Everett



Who's Dat Pretty Hoss
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Bubbadog

Is that Triple Threat?
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Everett

Na try again Bubbadog
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sadlbum

Everett,
That was one beautiful bay HOSS! Short backed, fattttt & purty yers. Looks like he had a white left fore foot. I'll guess Boyd Hudgins rode him & His Handle was Man of Rythm!
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Everett

Na Sadlbum look closer, you know that Hoss
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Bubbadog

ain't magic bay?
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Everett

Na try again Bubbadog
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sadlbum

Everette,
Could that have been that old bay hoss, that Links Pappy rode, that Mr Manning Jones, from Greeneville SC owned, that they wouldn,t let win the CELEBRATION? Or mebbe it was Chattom Alabamas Long Leaf Stables old Hoss that had so much "TRUE GRIT"
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Everett

Try again Sadlbum, i figured you and Bubbadog would get this one right away, He was a Great WGC
MY OPINION THE BEST
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Bubbadog

That horse looks BAY - is that Delight?
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Bubbadog

Juat look at that short back!
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Everett

Bubbadog
THATS IS SUN'S DELIGHT--CONGRATS
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sadlbum

Was that at Shadow Valley, Paradise Ranch or Sand Creek?
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Everett

Sadlbum
I'm thinking Paradise Ranch, but not sure
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sadlbum

Everett,
I was punning you, Your answer could have been, YEAH! One time this old man from California was working as a consultant, in Tullahoma, where I was working. He asked Donny, a friend of mine, if he could see good & Donny said, yeah Pete I can see good. Pete handed Donny a bundle of wires & said, count these wires for me & Donny replied; What wires? then Pete said; this Tennessee humor is hard to grasp!
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Everett

Sadlbum
I was punning you too,don't forget i was raised in Bell Buckle
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Larry

Sadlbum, Mr. Wayne's horse's name: Cochise, a leopard App.
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sadlbum

That was a nice looking horse. That's the movie where John Wayne's son got killed - I remember now.
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Everett



Well Who's Dat
Coin Ma-er
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sadlbum

SANTANA
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Everett

Na try again Sadlbum
this might be a tough one , just keep trying
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Everett

Its Coin Maker,I never Heard of Him
Everett
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smitty

E,

I never saw him, but he is a multiple WC show pleasure horse and from everything I've heard, was a great one.

I'm sure someone else can fill us in on him.
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smitty



Hoozat?????
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sadlbum

Everett & Smitty
I think Knox Blackburn trained Coinmaker for Bud Moore (x Assiss FB coach at Ala & field trial man) & Susan Lattell his then girlfriend & mebbe now his wife. He was a great horse & She has one now named Zulu.
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sadlbum

Smitty
Could the spotted Horse & cowboy be Michael Landon (little Joe) & one of his mounts?
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Mason

Looks like to me a young Hank Hill
Mason
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smitty

I think maybe you both are on the right track..............

C'mon folks! Take a wild guess.........(I know y'all know that cowboy)
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Everett

I've seen that picture before, but can't remember
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senator69

I'm like you "E" I've seen that pic but I don't know who it is.
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smitty

Anybody else want to guess???

Yes, he does have the rugged good-looks of a Patrick Swayze, but it ain't Patrick.....

Big Ed?
Bubbadog?
Graymare?
Jean?

(All of you know that cowboy......)
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smitty

I'm going to let y'all think about who that cowboy is a little more. I'll let Mason give the answer if noone gets it.....

Earlier I asked the question: What horse's funeral drew a crowd of over 2000 people. Noone took a shot at that one, so let's try it again, in a different way....

*(image missing)

Who Dat Hoss?

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Mason

Man O War
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grits

Is it Blackjack...
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sadlbum

I'll guess "Jim Key" but he probably died before this.
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sadlbum

About the Cowboy & Leetle spotted Hoss!
My mama never was around Horse people, But if she were still alive, She could identify HIM!
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senator69

Is the horse that drew such a crowd at the funeral ole Wilson Allen when they buried him at MTSU.I remember Dr. Bob telling me he drew a big crowd.
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Everett

That guy and the spotted horse is a Young Juan Valdez, i would know him anywhere
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sadlbum

Senor Evareet,
you's needs to reeds the above clue & thens you's weel know.
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Everett 

Peter Noone
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Jean

Smitty, is that you with the spotted horse?
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Everett



Well?????
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Mason

Sam and Delight
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Everett


That one was to easy , but you are right Mason it was Mr. Sam and Delight
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smitty

Mason was right. The photo is from the funeral of Man O War, which was held in Lexington, Ky.

Wow, yall are getting some good hints on who that cowboy really is, but I just can't bring myself to tell you.........

you'll have to guess.
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Everett

I give the Hell up on the cowboy, i've racked my brain, just DON'T know
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smitty

sadlbum wrote:
About the Cowboy & Leetle spotted Hoss!
My mama never was around Horse people, But if she were still alive, She could identify HIM!

Here's a excellent clue.....
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Jean

After a close look and think of someone with a shave ,i believe it is SADLBUM !THE ONE WITH THE SPOTTED HORSE
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smitty

JEAN GOT IT!!!!!
Yep........that IS Sadlbum.
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smitty

In the meantime....

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Who Dat?
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Jean

SADLBUM & THE HORSE SURE MAKE A GOODLOOKING PAIR. Is this a horse we should know?
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sadlbum

Jean & Yall,
That is me & Patches Sensation (Scout), I gave $200 for him when he was 20 mo old & rode & worked him & his son til he was 17. He never had a halter on when I got him & I probably trail rode him 1,000 mi. I sold them in 2000. I am about 40 lbs heavier now & have alot of gray hair.
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sadlbum

Cowboy & Remuda
He sure rings a bell, I'm wondering, If I've seen Him in the Showring or on the Silver Screen. Could this have been Tyrone Power or mebbe Percy Moss?
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senator69

Smitty,is the man Mr. Charlie Martin?
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Bubbadog

Sure looks a lot like Charlie Martin to me
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Everett

Boy ya'll got me on the Sadlbum picture, I would have never got that one
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Everett



Who's is Dis
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Bubbadog

Doug Wolaver on Triple Threat
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Everett

Bubbadog
Ya'll just to good here latley, you are right, Doug and TT
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smitty

Senator69 & Bubbadog,
You folks are correct, that is Charlie Martin. That photo was sent in by Mason.
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Bubbadog

Do you know who the horses are? The dappled one looks like the pony that Larry won the Celebration on - Echo's Little Man.
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Bubbadog

Sadlbum - tell me about your little spotted horse's pedigree.
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senator69

Bubbadog,I think your right.i should know some of these horses,I used to stop over and watch him ride and just hang out a lot.Larry and I are still friends .Hadn't seen him in years and a friend of mine told me where he lived so I always stop and see him and Lindsey when I'm in S'ville.
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Bubbadog

Senator 69 - tell them that Cissy says howdy
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sadlbum

Bubbadog,
!/2 old SHEP & 1/2 WELSH type spotted pony. His sire was a red roan TWH named Gallant Sensation & the dam was a big common spotted pony. He was 14-1 & big boned. Fox trotted but had a short lope as smooth as silk. Would go any where you asked him. Would work double or single. He's still alive at about 25 yrs, but I don't own him now, but saw him from a distance the other day. I had him reg in the nat'l spotted assoc. & still have the papers somewhere. Entire bot. side are unknown.
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Jean

Sadlbum, that is one pretty spotted horse. Pedigree or not.
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sadlbum

Thanks Jean,
Before I had him fixed, he sired a colt just like him, but he got 14-3 & paced. They looked like 2 peas from the same pod. I worked them together to a wagon in parades. My wife rode the young horse mostly. When I sold them, the older horse was 17 & the younger was 14. I don't know where the young horse is now, but when I sold him, no one had ever shod him but me. Sometime I might put their picture on the blog.
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senator69

Cissy,I will surely do that.I hope to go up sometime in the spring maybe for the Trainers show.
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smitty

Let's put a little different spin on this game....

(image missing)

Who Dat?
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sadlbum

Sam Paschal & Ebony's Dolly or Charlie Martin on a gelding. Its definitely not a Les Nelson picture - I'd just about bet its a Bill Eaton picture.
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Everett

Rock A By Lady ???
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smitty

(image missing)

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Sadlbum

Smitty, I got the photographer correct & would say the picture is early to mid 60's. I'm having to LOG on most every time, the AUTO is not working very well now!
I think Everetts guess of Rockabye Lady is a goodun. I would add to that Charles Martin.
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smitty

(image missing)

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Everett

Copy's Far Warning
Mason or John Harney
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smitty

(image missing)
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Everett

Well i thought it was Mason , and C'S F W but i don't remember him having her, so i don't know
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sadlbum

According to my source, it could be Louis Sloan on Rockabye Lady
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smitty

(image missing)

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Jean

Rock-A-Bye Lady as a 4 yr old withCharlie Martin 1967
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smitty



Rock-A-Bye Lady & Charlie Martin
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sadlbum

Smitty'
Feed us anuthun!
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smitty

Throw em a biscuit E!
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Everett

Smitty we guessed it earlier, check back ,i guessed the horse and Sadlum got the rider
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smitty

Yes, you got it first....

But I didn't spend all that time on that photo for nuthin! Besides, these are kind of fun to play out, regardless, don't you think?

Maybe we'll try that again later on in the week, when I have more time.
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Everett

That was Fun
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smitty

Who's That Lady?

(FREE HOT CHOCOLATE to anyone who remembers who sang this song from the 70's?????)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwBXV1xLcY0&feature=related
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Mason

This picture is from the late fortys or Early 50s I think..I've had it for yrs
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Everett

Audry Willams ? Mrs. Hank Willams
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sadlbum

Mason,
I will make an edicated guess, its not Jane Hardy, but it could have been Marianne Gray Leach. Is that a Flowering Crabb or a Dogwood tree?
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Bubbadog

Lord have mercy Sadlbum - Jane ain't that old - I know that I've seen the picture before but I have no idea who it is - I used to have a horse that looked just like that - bought him from Fred Phillips in Shelbyville - by Hank Snow - could stroll - strawberry roan was very popular with the field trial crowd.
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smitty



Sadlbum guessed correctly, it's Marianne Leech. (Gray)
What a wonderful old photo. I love the color in this shot.
That is definitely a crabapple tree.
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scooter

I think there is a strong possibility that the tree in question could be a flowering cherry. The blooms look large for a crabapple, but it is hard to tell from the photo. This post was more about seeing if I'm logged in as scooter. The tree is just an excuse.
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smitty

Scooter,

After taking a second look, I believe you are correct.......I think it is a Flowering Cherry as well. Nice trees..........they just don't bloom long enough do they?

Glad you made it back on here Scooter.
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smitty



Who Dat Boy?
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Probably the same knocker boots worn by Ebony in 62 & I think this Boys Pappy worked for Sam at the time, or mebbe this other Boys Pappy owned Ole Eb. First guess is Larry Martin & second guess is Kenny Hale.
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Everett

Jimmy McFarland ?
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smitty

Everett is correct, Jimmy McFarland is the rider.

Do anyone know the HOSS? (had something to do with his color)

Mason sent this one in. This horse also had a SPONSOR for the ad is was in.............it was a feed company from Murfsbur.........
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Everett



Who's Dat Horse and Rider
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sadlbum

That Hoss is Go Boys Black Rooster 68 WGC 3 YR OLD & Carlton Pitts of Readyville Tn Locks Creek road Cannon Co. riding out of Don Paschal Stables & owned by Captain E.A. Self of Mobile AL. I THINK.
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Everett

Sadlbum you are just too smart, you are right
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Everett



Well Who's Dat
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sadlbum

I think that was a colt that Bud Seaton started that was by Skippers Son of Midnight, while He was at Solitude Stock Farm, then moved with Him to Oakley Hayes' stable in Herrin Ill. Don't recall if the colt ever made or not. Maybe someone else knows.
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smitty



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Everett

Its a WGC Sadlbum
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sadlbum

Everett,
The one that I was messing around with was a WGC, but He was black & this one might have been red, but its hard to tell with this B & W photo.
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Everett

Well Sadlbum i can't tell you that, But don't guess ALL of them at one time, just look and think, you will get it
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sadlbum

Everett,
I know who its supposed to be & I would be dishonest if I told. I would never have guessed the right answer.
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Everett

Sadlbum Thanks for the Honesty, This horse was Crowned WGC between 1939 and 2007????????????????????????????????
Crowned behind The High School
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smitty

Pleez will somebody answer this one.....

His name is similar to "Bowling Slim".......
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smitty

Who Dat'n?

(horse AND rider)
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sadlbum

Steve Hill on Go Boy's Royal Heir but now its looking more like Candace Williams.

Why, that's OL' Jim. '38 WGC

I believe it was 39.

That's right of course. I must have been dozing off.

(Page 12)


Larry

Except when showing, this trainer is adorned with a cap whose top is flat to concaved (or convexed, depending upon whether one's perspective is inside or outside the cap). Who is he?
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grits

Smitty, Let me try my luck, I'll guess hum let me think now, Could Strollin' Jim be the answer your looking for...
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sadlbum

Yall,
Forgive me for douting but that just doesn't look like old Jim, but more like old Eb to me. I would truly like to see the rest of the picture.
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smitty

(image missing)
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sadlbum

Larry,
Ramsey Bullington or Monte Roberts
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smitty

(image missing
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Everett

That is Strolling Jim 1939 WGC
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smitty

(image missing)
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cb

Is that Mr. Sam on Ebony Masterpiece........
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sadlbum

Everett wrote:
That is Strolling Jim 1939 WGC
I believe Yall & don't doubt you. But doesn't the horse look black or dark brown?
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Everett

Sadlbum
It does look Dark Brown, but it is Strolling Jim

Smitty
Donald Paschal and Royal Heir
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smitty

It IS Royal Heir..........the only question now, is it Steve Hill, Donald Paschal or Candace Williams???
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Everett

Smitty
Lets see the HANDS THEN I CAN TELL YOU
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smitty

That's all I can show you E,

If I show the hands........I gotta show the face, and that will give it away..

All bets In???
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Everett

Candice Williams
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cb

I thought it looked a lot like Royal Heir but Bill thought it might be EM.
I believe it looks like Candace Williams.
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sadlbum

It IS Royal Heir..........the only question now, is it Steve Hill, Donald Paschal or Candace Williams???
You know that it could be Buddy Hugh also, but its not, I'm purty shore thats CANDACES slim & trim figure.
Whats a cryin shame, Is, I thank thats my pittsyur & I cudn't tell for shore who it is or ain't.
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smitty

Steve Hill



.....you can't hardly fool that Sadlbum!
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Well I started out with Steve, Then I did what one politician accuses another one of doing, I WAFFLED! I have 8 x 10 glossies of R Heir, with Steve, Candace, Donald, & Buddy H on His Back. Candace Williams won the WGC Amatuer class with Him in 67 & Donald Paschal won the WGC with him in 68. Candace replaced Royal Heir with Go Boys Chatterbox as Her Am Mount in 68, Someone enlighten us if They won the Am WGC?
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Everett



Who's Dat
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grits

Is it Juan Valdez (sp?) the coloumbian coffee dude...
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Everett

Grits you got it,Its Juan himself
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smitty

Sadlbum,

I think maybe Steve DOES look a little "girlish" from the waist down. Maybe that is what turned the tide towards Candace. He was a small man, was he not? But a master horseman nonetheless.

(I never knew he had Royal Heir myself.......how ejukayshunal!)
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grits

woooo hooooo, me got one, me got one..... me likes it let's do it again.
small things amuse samall minds...
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smitty

Grits,

I can picture you as a contestant on a Walking Horse Trivia game show.

I think it would be like Hollywood Squares, except it would be called Shelbyville Squares (or something like that)

I would be the host, and Everett, Mason, Bubbadog, Graymare, and all the other regulars would be the celebrities........Sadlbum would be the center square where Paul Lynde used to be.

Wouldn't that be a hoot???
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Guest

smitty,
I'm confused again, I thought that was what we were already doing..........
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grits

Smitty, I think it would be great for a laugh or three, I wish we could all meet at the Celebration and put faces and personalities to this wonderful lil family.
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scooter

Once again, I'm the mysterious "guest".
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grits

Scooter, stop by for a visit since your in my state. I live smack dab in the middle of the state of confusion...
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sadlbum

Moe nue questions on dat thred!
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Guest

What makes the Royal Heir picture particularly difficult is that altough the horse "mounts-up" like Royal Heir, his off hind fetlock has been painted out!

Bonus questions: What father-in-law/son-in-law team raised Royal Heir?
What other WGC did they raise?

DD
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smitty



Who Dat?
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sadlbum

Bonus questions: What father-in-law/son-in-law team raised Royal Heir?
What other WGC did they raise?


DD
T.J. Raney, Howard Binns & the 69 BR didn't say what other horse they raised, but I'll guess Carbon Copy.
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sadlbum

Melody Maid & Urban "NUB" Small
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Guest

Saddlbum,

You're absolutely right on Mr. Binns & Dr. Raney and on Carbon Copy. Excellent work, as usual.

What now famous trainer prepped the first group of Carbon Copy yearlings for the GLL Production Sale? How many yearlings were in that first sale?

DD
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sadlbum

DD
I believe He is the son of a famous gum smacker & His Wife posts on this hear thread. He also won the 4 yr old WGC this past season.
I don't know how many colts but Call of the Wild & The Ides of March were in that group.
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Guest

You got him pegged, saddlbum. I believe Call of the Wild was the first colt to go through the sale.

Who showed Merry Walker?

DD
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sadlbum

DD, You asked Me that the other day & I don't remember, Oh Oh yes I do, Was it Kathryn T's Father Inlaw?
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senator69

I believe you are probably right Sadlbum.It very well could be that Master Showman who showed the young'uns how it is supposed to be done this past yr. with one of my FAVORITE horses All Pro.
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senator69

Do any of you remember a trainer bringing in a horse to exhibit as the crowd was leaving the Cele. arena after the WGC class one yr.The announcer even talked about the horse as he was being exhibited.

(Page 13)

Bubbadog

I don't think that I remember that, refresh our memories, Sen69
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Everett



Who's Dis One
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senator69

We have been talking about the horse today.
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Mason

Is that Sam and Midnight Gold Sun
Mason
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Everett

Na Mason this is the sire of one of the Best Amt. WGC'S of All Times, My Opinion
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senator69

Hey E,is it Midnight Moonglow
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Guest

There were 18 Carbon Copy yearlings in the first GLL Production Sale. They were prepared for the sale by a teenage Bill Bobo. In addition to Call of the Wild & Ides of March, Copy's Record went through the sale. Anybody remember who showed her as a 2 yr. old?

J.H. Thompson [Kathy & Vickie Lynn's grandfather] showed Merry Walker in the early 40's on the Southwest circuit. Mr. Thompson made quite an impact at the first Murray Farm Sale. Anybody know what that might be?

DD
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Everett

Thats Him Jr. -Midnight MoonGlow sire of MoonGlow Jr.and i think was the Best Horse to ever win the Amt Stake (In My Time Anyway )
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Mason

Everett wrote:
Thats Him Jr. -Midnight MoonGlow sire of MoonGlow Jr.and i think was the Best Horse to ever win the Amt Stake (In My Time Anyway )

You got me ..I remembered the horse but forgot his name
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sadlbum

All Concerned!
1. The Oakwood Acres mare & rider haven't been verified yet.
2. The Rider on Midnight Moonglow hasn't been verified.
3. The Mysterious after Stake rider & Horse haven't been noted.
WE NEED TO SETTLE ALL OF THIS BEFORE WE ADD MORE CONFUSION!
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deltaboy

Is that Zollie Derryberry on Midnight Moonglow?

DD
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Mason

I Still think thats Sam on Moonglow
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senator69

On my question,here is a hint,the yr.was 1964.
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senator69

E,you and I like pretty much the same kind of hoss,of course we know that don't we .we've talked about it many times.I'm with you on Moonglow Jr. Marvin and i used to call him a WALKING POWERHOUSE and he sure was that.
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smitty




OK........wHo dAt?
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deltaboy

Mack K
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Everett

It don't say who the rider is on MoonGlow Jr., but i'm with Mason ,it looks like Mr. Sam
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smitty






Who Dey?

...and where are they?

(Bonus points if you know who lives in the trailer in the second shot...)
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sadlbum

sadlbum wrote:
All Concerned!
1. The Oakwood Acres mare & rider haven't been verified yet.
2. The Rider on Midnight Moonglow hasn't been verified.
3. The Mysterious after Stake rider & Horse haven't been noted.
WE NEED TO SETTLE ALL OF THIS BEFORE WE ADD MORE CONFUSION!
DITTO! DITTO! DITTO! DITTO!
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Everett

Smitty
I don't know, but thats a Good Looking Hoss
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Everett

Smitty
The picture on the other page was City Girl, we all looked over that one
I have had the CRUD this pass week and felt like Crap, feel a little better today
Everett
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sadlbum

Everette,
Glad You're better. The newest picture looks like A.L.R's. April Love & the Boy leaning against the post is prob. SMITTY & its his trailer too, I guess.
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smitty

Sadlbum,

No......I am not in this picture and that is not my trailer, but I am very familiar with this setting......There are a few hints in these photos if you look very closely.....
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Everett

Jumbo Boyd ?
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smitty

Everett, you are getting warm.....

These pictures WERE taken at Jumbo Boyd stables, but Jumbo is not in any of them. I think he had already passed on at this time.
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senator69

Well since a few of you out there would have only been about 3 yrs. old I will give you the answer to my question.
The year was 1964 and Carbon Copy had just won the WGC.,as folks were leaving Buddy Hugh brought in Go Boys Royal Heir and put him on exhibition for all to see.He and Toby figured that was a way for alot of people to see him at one time.The announcer even talked a little about him and said that he was for sale.I was working for Buddy and Toby at the time and it is just one of those memories that you never forget.
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smitty

You might recognize the horse van in the background in the first photo. In the second photo you might recognize the person on the right, who is a stocky young fella with red hair who ha$ ridden some gooderns in his day...

The young colts in these pictures are out of a Gray stud.....
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Everett

Would that Red headed boy be Scott Potter ?
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smitty

Yep..........that's Scott.....
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Would that "Grey" stud have been Ebs "Black" Charger? I'm not kidding.
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smitty

Sadlbum,

The colts I was referring to are actually the kids in the photo.......the gray stud MAY be someone you KNOW....
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Is that little "skinny" punk of a kid TIM GRAY?
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smitty

No sir. Too pretty to be a Gray......
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cb

Is the skinny boy Herbert Derickson.....
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smitty

Connie,

No........the skinny boy is from middle Tennessee. He is all grown up now and has become quite talented in another profession these days.....
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cb

Smitty, James Sigmon is from Kentucky, right?
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smitty

Yes,

James is originally from Williamsburg, Ky, which is right on I-75, not far from the Tennessee border as you travel south to Knoxville.
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Bubbadog

Senator 69 - I DO remember that now - but just vaguely - that was my second Celebration and I didn't know anything except that I liked Triple Threat best - but to me nothing could hold a candle to my first WC, Sun's Delight. I'll bet that the @#$% would hit the fan if someone tried that NOW!
Shame, ain't it?
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senator69

I hear that Bubbadog,you can't hardly look cross-eyed now wiyhout someone saying something.I've got Sum memories of the Cele. grounds .some GREAT and some NOT SO GREAT.LOL
That night it didn't hurt that Buddy was very popular and much loved as he was till the day he passed away.He was a very GOOD friend throughout the yrs..We always stayed close and in touch with each other.We also had a GREAT string of hosses back then.Gunsmoke Son,Shadow's King Cotton,Shadow's Motion Man,Gunsmoke's Miss Kitty and Chimney Sweep just to name a few.
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Everett



Who's The Rider & The Hoss
S------ H------

(Page 14)

Bubbadog

I know that it's Vic but I'm guessing at the horse - Sun's Celebration?
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smitty

Hold on E,

We ain't got a answer for the last one yet!

I'm gonna give yall one more clue. This is what that skinny little fella looks like NOW:

(image missing)
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Well I still don't Know who it is.
The new picture is Vic Thompson on Suns Celebration.
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Everett

Sorry about that Smitty,i should know who that is ,but drawinG A Blank

Sadlbum
Its Vic, But not Sun's Celebration
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senator69

E,is Vic and Jet parade?
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smitty

Well I'll be.......

Here is the SIRE OF THAT BOY!:

(image missing)
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Everett

I be Damn i put David's son on my answer above and took it off,thinking he would be to old at the time of that picture,Honestly i did,i know davids son is in a band
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sadlbum

Shadows Untouchable
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smitty

Yes, that is Buddy Mason in both photos. The horse is Clutch's China Doll, which Buddy showed in the juvenile class I think. Also that is Kim Mason and David standing behind her on the rail. The photo was taken in 1982. I believe I was boarding at Jumbo's at that time, although I wasn't present when these photos were taken.

Here is Buddy's band whose name (correct me if I'm wrong, Mason) is

"OUT & RUNNIN"

(image missing)
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Everett

Jr
Its not Jet Parade
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Bubbadog

Is it Sun's Celebration? That was my first guess but I wasn't sure.
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sadlbum

Who's that old man, above?
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Everett

Bubbadog, not Suns Celebration
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Everett

Sadlbum, Not Untouchable
Its a Stud Hoss
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ONEHOTMARE

I have seen this photo at Mrs. Marilyn and Kathys. Could it be Senators Red Warrior or Cotton Ginner?
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sadlbum

Shadows Headman
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Everett

onehotmare, its neither one of those
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ONEHOTMARE

Everett....how about King of The Alamo or Blue Eagle?
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sadlbum

This picture(really a Painting after Les Nelson got thru retouching it)was probably done between 54 & 62. Cotton Ginner & King of the Alamo were from the 40's. Notice no pads or boots or swivelized shanks.
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ONEHOTMARE

I'm trying to describe the photo to Kathy right now. She's thinks it's Shadows Headman too.
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smitty

I think Sadlbum got it Everett.

Shadow's Headman was a divisional two-year-old champ, according to the source and reserve two-year-old champion in 1959.
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Everett

Sadlbum and Onehotmare
It is Shadows Headman
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ONEHOTMARE

Sadlbum...Is that a near hind sock or fetlock? I can't really tell.
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sadlbum

OneHotMare,
I can't tell. Les Nelson could take a picture of a trail Horse that couldn't step over a corn cob & make it look like this Horse, after he painted in new ears, mane, tail, front & rear legs. Probably the only ligitimate untouched things are Vic & the animals torso. This Horse never made it as a big time aged Horse, reckon what happened?
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ONEHOTMARE

Everett...Kathy and Marilyn said to thankyou! They aren't able to get on line right now, but hope to join you soon. Les was long before my time Sadlbum, but I have always heard that.
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Everett

ONEHOTMARE
Tell them both i said hello
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Everett



Who's Dat
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ONEHOTMARE

Everett...Is this a stud? Maybe White Star. Marilyn and Kathy hope life is treating you well.
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Everett

ONEHOTMARE
This horse was on a TV Show, it was a western program. this is not a very good picture of him, but i will put some hints on tommorrow.
Tell Marlyn and Kathy i am doing well and have an On Line Travel Business and hope they are Healthy and doing OK
Everett
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ONEHOTMARE

Not the Lone Ranger's Hi Yo Silver. If it's him I agree, not a good pic'.
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Everett

onehotmare you are right its SILVER Bad picture of what i remember
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smitty



I Got No Idea Who Dat Be????
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Bubbadog

Looks like a Sundust horse to me.
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Mason

I had forgotten about that picture til Sadlebum brought it by here yesterday for me to post...I KNEW who it was, but am not going to tell for a while. It is a mare. I think one of the best pictures of a WH I have ever seen. WHY did WE ever try and make them look like freaks...this was enough...and I think more pleasing to the public...I'm as guilty as anyone but hindsight is 20/20
Mason
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Everett

Mason
Thats one of my Good Friends and i will wait and see if someone else can get it, can't remember the horse ,i should know but drawing a blank
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Bubbadog


Joe Gibbs?
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Everett

Is that my Former Boss A Young Toby Green
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smitty

By the way, nobody knew who lives in the trailer in the second shot....



Answer: The honorable Sam Sorrell
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senator69

E,it does look like Toby. But it also reminds me alot of my ole friend Buddy Kirby.The horse looks familiar but i can't put a handle on it.
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cb

Jr,I'm going to agree with E, that is Toby Green.

(Page 15)

Sadlbum

Toby's Picture,
I don't think the mares name is written on the picture, but if my memory serves me correctly, thats Spurs Summer Dream (maybe)
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Bubbadog

I think that Saddlebum is right
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senator69

Yeah I remember that pic now.I'm pretty sure that is Spur's Summer Dream.I knew it was a Spur horse ,just couldn't remember the name.Iknew it was Toby but it did remind me of Kirby.
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smitty

Yall is so right.....



Who Dis?
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cb

Well I know who that beautiful lady is..............
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smitty

........." who's that lady???".......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1DDgNCLD84
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Everett

Who is that lady Connie
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Sadlbum

Anyone,
I'm curious about the curb chain & bit or hackemore setup on the bridle, hows about someone explaining it to me. No wonder alot of people are turned off by the performance TWH, just size up that package on the horses right front foot. The enormity of it would turn anyone off. That horse is hitting a good lick & I like it, but we still have to be concerned with John Q Public.

sadlbum
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Everett

Sadlbum
That is a Shanked Bit With a Over check snaffle bit also
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ONEHOTMARE

You got it right Everett. Ramsey took a piece out of that bit so it would be legal and yes, they do check them. The package is also legal. That mare had to go back thru USDA during Celebration 2005 and 2007 and I'm proud to say she is USDA approved. This shot was from the 2005 International. I'm sorry if she appears to be bad image but apparently the judges didn't think so. We were reserve at this yrs Celebration and I'll take a reserve there anyday.
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smitty

......and that is "Touch My Way" and our newest member OHM driving. Ladies Fine Harness champs at the 2005 International.

That's a nice lookin hoss OHM.
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Graymare

OHM - Both you and the horse are beautiful and very well presented. You deserved your wins and looked great in the process! The only thing that might make it better is to have "Brother Kitty" sitting in the seat beside you. Somehow, that thought makes me want to burst out loud laughing!! I can just see the expression on that cat's face!!!!
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sadlbum

OneHotMare,
I'm sorry if you read a bad image into my comments, because I said nothing of the kind. In fact I said that "I" liked it. I meant nothing negative about the Hackemore type setup with the Bits, I'm just not familiar with it. I am concerned about the publics perception of the enormous buildups. Just take a long hard look at that Right front foot with & open mind.
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Everett

onehotmare
Tell Ramsey i said Hello, I met Ramsey back in the 60's when i was training in Brookneal Va.and he lived in Altavista Va., are you related,He was also a great Horse Trainer, put a lot of walk in all his horses, glad he don't have to ride them now, didn't Ramsey have a bad back, thats why i quit riding, i had two back operations myself,and can't ride anymore
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smitty



Who Dat?
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deltaboy

That's Don Bell hitting a "big lick" on Judge Roy Bean[?].
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sadlbum

DeltaBoy,
You've got the Jockey right!
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ONEHOTMARE

Sadlbum....I'm sorry I misinterpreted your post. I thought you were implying that her package may not be legal, but now I understand. I appreciate your kind comments, as well as the others that posted. This mare does have those draft horse size hoofs and I think the angle of the shot had alot to do with it. You should see her standing in the cross ties along with my trail horses. My spotted colt wears 00 drill techs and the other 0's, so you can imagine what a sight that is. I agree the HSUS and others will never stop until we give up the pads and chains. This industry has cleaned up it's act so much over the past few years. The compliance rate is great, horses are free going, but they continue to harass us because a few hairs are missing. I could go on and on, but this is suppose to be about trivia, so I'll shut up for now.
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ONEHOTMARE

Ramsey said hello too! I knew ya'll were in Va at the same time and if it was in the 60's then you and he must have been about 6 or 7 at the time. haha. No, Ramsey said you and him were about the same age. Ramsey and I were married last July by Chris Bobo. Infact, we were married at Bill and Connies barn. I purchased my first TWH at Bobo's in the late 80's, but I never dreamed that oneday I would be marrying Ramsey there. I'm sure it surprised everyone else in the horse world, as well. Ramsey had one back surgery but his main problem is arthritis. The riding didn't bother him as much as the constant getting up and down and working on feet. Ofcourse now the trainers have to spend as much time keeping the feet clean as they do in the saddle. I honestly don't know how the older guys do it.
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cb

Sheila, it was a honor for Bill and I to stand up with you and Ramsey.
It was such a lovely day for a beautiful wedding.

What a pleasure it was for us to have your wedding behind the barn near the riding ring with all the flowers and trees.....the mares nearby in the pasture...it all seemed so appropriate and so lovely.

Bill and I love you both and wish you the very best life has to offer.
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Everett

Congats Sheila
Ramsey is a good one, we have been friends since the 60's althought i haven't seen him in years , always had a lot of respect for him as a person and a fellow trainer.When I have first met ramsey i seen him take just an average horse and turn it into a top horse and whoop the daylights out of everyone, then he started getting some Good stock to work then he Really whooped up on everybody.
Everett
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sadlbum

OneHotMare,
I've just read Your last post & I also hope that We understand & appreciate one another. I do respect Yours & Everyone on Heres feelings. Sometimes on this Blog with so few People, things tend to get to be a stalemate. No comments & no dialogue. I don't know You & I thought the Mare looked fine. I wanted to comment & struggled with something to say. Sometimes I say things, that I regret 5 minutes later, I said something the other day concerning Masons that I regret. I have been around the spectator side of the TW Performance Horse since the mid 60's & I totally agree, great strides have been made by the Trainers in presenting a more sound animal. With that said, Lets continue to enjoy Who Dat?
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ONEHOTMARE

Amen to that Sadlbum! I'm sure Mason will forgive you, just take him out to dinner one night. lol
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sadlbum

OneHotMare,
They fed Me one of the best Lunches (Dinner) at Their House, awhile back, that I can ever remember having. Mrs JM is an OUTSTANDING cook & Person.
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sadlbum

Fellow Bloggsters,
Lets don't let the above HOSS go unnamed. I bleeve a former CEO of the TWHBEA showed him too.
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Everett

Is It Coming Yonder ?
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smitty

You got it Everett,........that's Don Bell up.

Yes........Comin Yonder is one I remember with Bob Cherry in the saddle. Kind of looks like he's on one side of the bit don't it???
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Everett

Yep Smitty, looks ole Don has a pretty good hold on that left side
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Everett



Who's Dat?
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sadlbum

Everett,
Mason & I were talking about this Girl, Monday. I think He told Me that She has been dead for a long time.
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makethecut

That is Pam Rollins and Special Delivery. Pam is still alive(as of about 5 years ago) , but her sister Rita was killed years ago when struck by lightning.
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sadlbum

MakeTheCut,
Sorry for getting my wires crossed, Your right on Horse & Rider. Whats the Horse by?
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deltaboy

I think he was by Sun's Delight.
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senator69

I'm pretty sure your right Deltaboy.Buddy Hugh had Special Delivery as a young horse and if my memory serves me right I'm pretty sure he was by Sun's Delight.I remember he was a walkin head shaken son-of -a gun.
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Everett

All ya'll are right , he was a Gooden
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smitty



Who Dat'n?
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Is that my color picture? If yes, then I won't answer it.
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smitty

Sadlbum,

Most all of the larger pictures we will be posting in the weeks to come will come from your & Mason's stock. We thank you guys for your efforts.

That was one of my all-time favorities. Do you have the photo of him side by side with True Grit??? That was right before he broke. One of my ALL-TIME favorite Celebration memories. I just really liked this horse and rider.....a classy, good-looking team I thought.

(Does anyone remember the horse's ORIGINAL name???)
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Bubbadog

Albert Lee Rowland and Mizzou's Threat
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makethecut

Was his original name Threat's Cold Sweat?

 

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Bubbadog

Hey Tone - how you? I do believe that you MAY be correck!
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Everett

I Braced his tail that year at the celebration, he had a crooked tail bone and hard to brace, but a walking son of a gun,i'm thinking Mizzous Threat was his Reg. Name, Albert was showing him under Threats Cold Sweat and the Breeders said he had to show him under his Reg. Name, are thats what i remember that happening
Everett
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smitty

I believe you are correct Everett. Has anyone seen the photo of Mizzou's Threat & Ebony's True Grit side by side and step for step??? This photo used to be displayed in either World Champion or Blue Ribbon horse equipment in Shelbyville. I think it is one of the greatest Celebration action shots ever taken.

I would KILL to have the picture.......
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Everett

Smitty
Joe Fleming has A Big Color Picture of those 2 horses hanging in his Office, and you are right Both horses every foot in the SAME Place, Amazing Photo
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smitty

What was even better than the photo was seeing them in person as they came down the rail side by side and in PERFECT UNISION..........both horses timed up together in absolute precision. Never have seen this since that time.

I remember that so well, even though I was just a kid and that was my first Celebration. Too bad Mizzou broke.........

(I've heard the umbrella conspiracy theory, but don't know if it has any merit or not. Anybody know the TRUTH?)
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Everett

I was helping Albert that night and he swears that happened, but i always thought he just over rode him . He was fighting an up hill battle that night if you know what i mean, it was Joe's to lose
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Everett




Who's Dat
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cb

Everett, do you remember Randall Albert and Oneida"s son? He is in a Nashville hospital and has been in crtical condition.He had a blood clot and had surgery so he would not lose his leg. He had a heart attack the next day. I have not talked to Renita in a couple of days but hope he is doing better.
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Everett

Connie
I know Randall well, Please tell Renita to tell him we are praying for his Full Recovery, Please keep me informed on his well being
Everett
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deltaboy

Best wishes to Randall for a speedy recovery [I haven't seen him in years].

The picture is Bob Cherry on Tiger Bay [I think].
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Everett

deltaboy you are right, Tiger Bay and Bob Cherry
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smitty



...now WHO DAT?
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cb

It looks like Mason and the horse looks very familar .
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makethecut

Is the picture Mason up on Copyrite?
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smitty

Didn't take you folks long to get that one.

I thought this one might be tough, since Copy's Night Train & Double Clutch could easily be confused for this one. I think this was the horse Paula Potter showed if my memory is working today.

Mason, why did Paula quit showing? Also, didn't Scott have a brother named Mitch? Seems like he may have shown a little as well??

Also, didn't a girl named Lisa show Night Train out of your barn. I think I met her once't.

......and what kind of hat are you wearing in that photo??
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Bubbadog

Connie - I used to know Randall well - I'm sending a prayer for his recover. That is a shame. What about Renita? Do you know where she is?
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Mason

Paula did show COPY RITE.won a Juv class at THE Celebration..Paula is married and lives in Lexington.
Mitch is the oldest...he and his baby bro Tom are in the mine business I think..also think they do some building?...Mitch also has some kind of business in Lexington...I think maybe sells 4 wheelers,etc...its near Man Of War Blvd I THINK...they ALL showed when they were young but lost the desire as they grew up and got interested in other things.
Lisa Bowman Showed Copys Night train....
And the HAT? Just another silly thing I have done in my life....it was called a Gambler Hat....Looks kinda Silly now doesnt it?I've got an ole picture of Copy rite,that HAT and I winning a class at Montgomery Ala somewhere around here...I look like I just got out of jail.
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sadlbum

Mason,
I think the hat was COOL! I also like the way You're reared back like Your somebody.
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cb

Bubbadog, Renita lives in Franklin. We do keep in touch.
This has been a trying time for her.
Mike the youngest lives in N.C.
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cb

Deltaboy can you email me privately please.... cbobo@cafes.net
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Everett



Who's Dat Fella
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sadlbum

Everette,
I think that Gentleman was a physician that practiced west of the M i crooked letter crooked letter i crooked letter crooked letter i humpback humpback i.
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Everett

Sadlbum
I think you R.I.G.H.T. ,But i need a name
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senator69

Mason,I thought that hat was pure class.Ialways admired you ,Ronal Young and Marvin Wilson for the way you sat a horse and the classy way you dressed.all of you had certain things you did or wore that GRABBed attention which back in the day was cool and fun.They have taken alot of that away now and it just isn't that much fun anymore.
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Mason

Thanks man for polishing my EGO! I dont go anymore but do see pictures now and then..I just cant believe how MOST of those fellers ride ..they hump up like the they are trying to hide ...taint the way I came up... part of showing was trying to make the horse look good by the way you sat in the saddle...if I were an owner nowdays I'd HUNT til I found someone who tried to SHOW a horse to his best advantage...but I dont believe many of them know the difference....Time changes everything..I see that the older I get
Mason
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smitty

Mason,

I like the HAT too!!

Yo allus wuz ahead a yo time!
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Bubbadog

Mason I remember you showing in that hat - I considered you quite fetching!
And you right - I hadn't thought about it before but they ARE all scrunched down like they're trying to be invisible. I would have a hard time paying someone to train my horse that looked like a blob in the saddle.
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sadlbum

Everett,
That pictures from a Joe Webb book, right?
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senator69

I know what your saying David.I feel the same way.One of my first owners that help bring me up was Red Gochneur.He told me something along time ago that I've never forgotten."If you want to sell a $100,000.00 horse you gotta look like a $100,000.00 man".That is just the way Red did business.My theory is you've got to at least look like a professional.
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senator69

E,isn't that Dr.Porter Rogers and ole Perfection.
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Everett

Sadlbum and Senator69
That is Dr. P. Rodgers and R. Perfection, ya'll just too good
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smitty

I may be wrong, but I don't think Mason was the only one to wear that style of hat, although he may have been the first or one of the first.

I seem to remember Ron Curkendall, Bennie Johnson & maybe one of the Carters from East Tenn wearing a similar style hat. Mike Oppenheimer has also worn some different style hats as well I think, although I'm not sure about Mose. I also have seen that style worn up here in Ky by some Racking Horse folks.

I could be wrong, because all I have left to work with is FADED MEMORIES.....???
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Bubbadog

Memories - misty water - colored memories - of the WAY WE WERE -
didn't it all seem so simple then ----------------------ya'll - join in - SING!
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smitty

.....where's my kleenex?.......(sniff!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-KPGh3wysw
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BigEd

There was a bunch of us who got hats like Masons one year. I think around 1980. We bought them at a store close to Pope's Cafe. I showed in mine some and thought it really looked cool. I was training 3 horses for Tom and Fran Gorsuch at the time and Fran told me that if I wore that hat while showing her horse, she would kick my butt.
Eddie
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Mason

Ed reckin we otta have one big yardsale?I bet these Shell'vul Mexicans would like lots of the stuff we THOUGHT was SO cool ...back in tha day!
Mason
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deltaboy

The name of that store would be the answer to a good trivia question. Any takers?
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Mason

OLD AND IN THE WAY
would be a good name for that store
Thought about calling our Bluegrass group that but we decided on "THE BUGSCUFFLE SYMPHONY " instead...that about says it ALL...MAYBE too much
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sadlbum

All Yall,
I can name that store, but Mason I want to know, if H.D.G. gave you that haircut that was under that hat?

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Mason

Id say he probably did......slick aint it?

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Deltaboy

Was it Tip Thompson???
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Bubbadog

It sure was Tip Thompson's on the SQUARE in S'Vulle
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smitty


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deltaboy

Yep, it sure was. The store has been closed for several years & the building is empty. I hadn't been on the Shelbyville square in many years until last summer. I noticed that they had a rather run-down display of Walking Horse pictures in the display window of Tip Thompson's. Included was a painting of Toby Green on Spur's Summer Dream. I'm sure it was based on the picture that was posted here recently.

By the way, Sadlbum asked recently who the owner of Shelby Pines Stables was. It was Toby Green.
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Mason

Deltaboy I thought you were talking about the NAME of our Yard Sale...its hard for me to keep my mind on but one thing at a time...Tip Thompsons RIGHT...
ALSO I THINK POPES is closed???Anyone know for sure?
Janet and I went in there sometime last yr for breakfast..there was SO MUCH smoke we couldnt wait to get outside,,that was before the NO SMOKE ban in Tn....MAYBE ALL their regulars smoked and when that passed they closed up shop?ALL the workers seemed to smoke ...
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smitty

POPE'S CLOSED???

say it ain't so, mister........
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sadlbum

Yall,
I like the picture of the square, Musta been taken about the time the Cel started, see the Dixie Hotel to the left of Popes. The Dixie Hotels Blue Ribbon magazines are at the Shel Library. I use to go over & look at them, before I got My own.
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smitty

Alright, back to........

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Who Dat?


*Sadlbum & Everett, I'm going to ask you all to sit this one out and let the others have a shot at it. Sadlbum, you supplied this photo and both of you are too damn smart.
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smitty

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Yeah, that's kind of tough, ain't it? How bout now.........???
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Mason

I know now...ck out that foot & notice how small it looks
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ONEHOTMARE

Sorry Smitty, but it's closed.
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Mason

Did EVERYONE die from all that SMOKE?
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smitty


I've searched high & low for the perfect pie over the years.......Pope's was IT!

(image missing)

I need the horse AND rider.........
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Mason

I'm gonna give a clue he calls me CUZ
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smitty

(image missing)
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grits

Pope's closed, I was planning on going there when I come for the Celebration. I need some suggestions on things to do...
Now I'll never meet "Gravyman." ( Grits hangs her head and cries )
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smitty

......Gravyman lives on!......wherever good fried Pork Tenderloin is served....

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This horse was a WORLD GRAND CHAMPION......c'mon, somebody throw me a bone.....

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Everett

Bubbadog you know that Horse and Rider
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ONEHOTMARE

Ebony Masterpiece?
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smitty

No, a little later than Ebony..........Connie MIGHT know this horse....
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ONEHOTMARE

That's got to be CA and Sensational Shadow. He had those markings on his face.
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smitty

You are correct about the horse. That is Sensational Shadow....

but surprise!

that ain't Charlie Bobo......


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ONEHOTMARE

Yep, alot more reach than Masterpiece, now that I'm comparing pictures.
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ONEHOTMARE

When Mason said CUZ, I knew that had to be Wallace.
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smitty

Could Wallace be the best and most well-known trainer to never win a World Grand Championship?
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Everett

And one of the Nicest Fellas you would want to meet
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Mason

I was thinking about Wallace tonight...when I was a kid ALL the horse trainers were my Heros....my friends had Baseball players as their heros.....I guess Cuz is my last living hero? Its pretty neat to get to know your heros on first name basis...I've been very fortunate to have LIVED THE DREAM....been there, done that, got the shirt....all that and a nickel will get you about 3 cents worth of change wont it?
Mason
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Everett

That about Sums it up Mason
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smitty

"The definition of success--To laugh much; to win respect of intelligent persons and the affections of children; to earn the approbation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give one's self; to leave the world a little better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition.; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm, and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived--this is to have succeeded."

Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Mason

Thats heavy Bro
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Bubbadog

Hey ya'll - my internet has been kaput this afternoon - I would have been able to answer after Mason threw the "Cuz" clue out.
Over the years, I had horses with many different trainers but I'm going to have to say that Wallace is the most entertaining of the bunch. He was constantly doing something to bring a smile - flying through the barn in that golf cart, or riding old Aristocrat like he was actually going somewhere - on rainy days he would hang beer cans in the rafters to mark leaks (he intended to have fixed) in the barn roof - but if he caught you putting more than 4 sets of leg wraps in the wringer washer, he could get kind of testy!
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Everett



Who's Dat
Sadlbum and Mason you already know
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Bubbadog

i know the rider - paul smith
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Everett

Bubbadog
You got the RIDER right, I broke this horse when he was a yearling, i was working for Jack Montgomery at the old Winston Wiser Barn when i was around 16 or 17, was a REAL Nice horse.
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smitty



Dont rightly know.............Who Dat???
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Mason

Sadlebum will have to tell you who that is...THINGS SURE WERE FUZZY BACK THEN werent they?
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Mason

When my oldest grandson was small Janet was telling him about something that had happened when she was a little girl......and Brian said Mimi "Was that BACK WHEN THINGS WERE BLACK & WHITE ?"

I believe the picture above was back before that... it was when Things were BROWN & white ,AND FUZZY
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sadlbum

Bloggsters,
That is A.J. Arch Todd, My Wifes great grandfather & the man driving spotted horse to buggy's grandfather. He had a handlebar mustache & his horses can be found in the stud books. He lived near Bradyville Tn. Look at the grey foals nice pointed ears.
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Bubbadog

E - back to the Paul Smith picture - who is the horse?
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sadlbum

Smitty,
When this thang makes a nue page, It baffles me. I think sumpin is wrong & I keep trying until I finally figure out what is goin on.
MASON,
Would You mind telling the story about H.K. & the Clabbered (but) Milk?

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Sadlbum

BubbaDawg,
See my NEW trivia questions for a clue!
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Bubbadog


Sadlbum - Shadow at Midnight?
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Everett

Bubbadog
That is Shadow at Midnight and my buddy Paul Smith
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Everett



Who's Dat

Sadlbum & Mason you might already know
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ONEHOTMARE

Please throw me a clue
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Everett

onehotmare
Ramsey will know this horse,Doodie Powers had this horse at one time,and the RIDER don't live for from You
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ONEHOTMARE

He said David Welch and Sun's Eliminator.
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Everett

onehotmare
He is Right
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smitty

(image missing)

WhatTheHeckIsDAT???
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sadlbum

Jimmy Carter & Wilsons Jack
I've got an ad in a magazine & everyone of his weanlings, looked like mules.
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smitty

Actually that's Strawberry Muffin,

A minature Donkey that took reserve honors and was named best of breed at The Great Celebration Minature Donkey Show last year.

I wouldn't mind going to this show.
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Everett



Who's Dat
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sadlbum

Everett,
Thats not my picture, so I'm gonna make a ejikated gess, its none other than Hoyt Tenpenny on Eljorado's Beeg Star!
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Everett

Sadlbum
Thats Not Hoyt, come to think of it ,i have have seen Hoyt on a horse,this ole boy is from Va. and a good friend of mine
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ONEHOTMARE

Ramsey said it's Joe and he thinks the Reflections Shadow hoss, they called SNAKE.
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Bubbadog

No - that ain't Joe.
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Everett

onehotmare
That is Joe Houck, but not Reflection (snake)hoss,tell Ramsey to think back on some of the horses Joe had
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ONEHOTMARE

Ramsey must be having a "senior moment". Now, he says it doesn't look like the SNAKE hoss, but he's not sure.
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Mason

Guess I might better WAIT on that one...
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Everett

He's By Delight
Delights Night Flight
That one was pretty tough, Joe won alot with him in Va. and Carolina's, back in late 60's,was a Nice Horse
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smitty



Who Dat?
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makethecut

Mr. Charlie Bobo and Dat's De Babe
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Everett

I know, but will wait
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smitty

Makethecut,

C.A. Bobo is correct......but dat ain't de Babe....

(Mason...........wasn't there a WC Saddlebred called Dat's De Babe???)
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deltaboy

Go Boy's Black Angel
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smitty

Yes.......Black Angel is right, Deltaboy

(image missing)

What dat?
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BigEd

1959,60, or 61 Chev. El Camino
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smitty

Yep!

Not sure about the year, but that's the first style of El Camino.
I always wanted one for some reason...
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Everett

Guy's thats a 59, worth LOTS of money today
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Everett



Who's Dat One
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Bubbadog

I know that it is Elmore Brock - it is Double Delight?
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Everett

Bubbadog
That is Elmore, but wrong horse
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Thats an unusual marking on his shoulder!
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Bubbadog

Is that actually a marking? I thought that it was a flaw in the photo.
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Everett

Its a Flaw in the picture
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smitty

oops......I fixed that on my copy, but forgot to fix the one I sent to E.....yes, that's a tear in the copy.


THERE......I fixed it.
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Everett

Smitty you as good as Les Nelson
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smitty

It is amazing what you can do with this digital stuff. You can truly ALTER reality if you wish, although that's kind of scary as well. Photoshop is the program I use for all the photos and the special effects at times. I have been using it for over 15 years.
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Everett

Ya'll look up AT the photo's above and see how the trainers of yestaryear sat in the Saddle, WHAT WENT WRONG, I think its in the WATER, DON'T DRINK THE WATER

On the horse Elmore is riding above is By Delight, a Good Horse but for the life of me i can't remember if he won a class at the celebration or not
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Mason

Maybe, I dont remember

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ONEHOTMARE

"Mr. Glo" was one of Elmores , not sure if it's him.
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Everett

Its not Mr. Glo
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Everett

Elmore is riding MARK OF DELIGHT ,does anyone remember him
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smitty

Seems like he may have won a 2 or 3 year old stallion preliminary class?
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smitty

(image missing)
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Would that be Amy Lee Marks?
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smitty

Correct. Name the juvenile horse Amy rode and his color, breeding and describe his general action.....
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Guest

This one is easy and that's Amie Lee. I can even name the one behind her, that's "Reggie" her trail horse. "Dan's Go Boy" was her juv horse and he was gray and white and by Go Boy.
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Amy Lee's horse was a chesnut mare by the name of Amy's Eldorado & was raised by my friends Pete & Margaret Anderson of Manchester, Tn. Dan's Go Boy was her brother Woody's horse. Her Mother Amy Boyd showed gaited ponies in the thirties & forties. Her Grandaddy Mr Franklin Boyd owned the Chevy dealorship in Shelbyville & was on the first board of the Celebration.
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smitty

Sadlbum,

I remember Amy's Eldorado being in the pony class. I also remember Dan's Go Boy being ridden by Amie Lee Marks in the juvenile class, perhaps winning a WC with him (?) Seems like he had a big lick.
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sadlbum

Smitty,
I Re-itterate, Woody Marks showed Dans Go Boy, Amy Lee could have too at some time. George Witt was one of his trainers & I think Buddy Hugh was also & I think Jim Gandy from Dallas was the last to show him. Yes he was a great show horse & was Grey. There were 3 other good grey horses of that era, The Shocking Blue, Blue Magic & The Ghost That Walks. Silver Shadows Replica was great but came before them.

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smitty

Is it possible Amie showed Dan's Go Boy in the ladies class?
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Yes, it is very possible? Do any of Ya'll know Who she married out in Las Vegas, once?
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Everett

ELVIS ?
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Everett



Who's Dat Fella
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Mason

C.A. BOBO
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Everett

no mason ,LOOK again
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Mason

ELVIS or another HANDSOME feller!?
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Guest

This one is easy and that's Amie Lee. I can even name the one behind her, that's "Reggie" her trail horse. "Dan's Go Boy" was her juv horse and he was gray and white and by Go Boy.
That was me, Smitty. Amie Lee's going to give you all the details.
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ONEHOTMARE

Sorry folks, I couldn't log on....Smitty. are you trying to bump me off???
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smitty

Heck no OHM,

I ain't even been here. Just ran out to get some Chinese food. I'm sitting here typing with an eggroll stickin out of my mouf.
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Everett

Mason
I was talking about that fella with the no. 9 on his back
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sadlbum

Everette,
Steve McNair was no. 9, But he isn't blonde, mustuv been Wayne Hackney or Johny Pucket.
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Everett

Good try Sadlbum ,but it ain't them guys
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ONEHOTMARE

Didn't Bill wear #9 with THE WHOLE NINE YARDS?
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Everett

onehotmare
You are right, its my pal Bill Bobo, one of the nicest and hard workingest horse trainers in the Business
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sadlbum

Everett,
The Whole 9 Yards was one of the best 4 yr olds, I've ever seen, but in My opinion, He slacked off some in his senior year. I remember Him going up the west rail on the reverse when He was 4 & His stride was awesome.
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Everett

Sadlbum
I never got to see him show, but i sure liked what i saw on the video
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Mason

Sadlbum
I never got to see him show, but i sure liked what i saw on the video

wuz as close as I could have gotten when I said C.A. wasnt I
I never saw that Horse...but I have seen BoBo Bill
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smitty

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Who Dat?
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deltaboy

Wing Commander?
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smitty

No, but this mare is probably the second-most famous Saddlebred behind Wing Commander.....
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Everett

My My and Mr. Bradshaw ?
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smitty

Everett......you are RIGHT!
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Everett



Who's Dat Hoss & Rider
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deltaboy

Candice Williams & Go Boy's Chatterbox.

Wasn't Mr. Bradshaw from Lebanon, Tenn.?
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cb

Mr. Bradshaw and C.A. were first cousins.
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Everett

deltaboy
you are right
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deltaboy

That lends credence to the theory that great horsemen are born, not made. Blood will tell!
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sadlbum

Smitty, Deltaboy & Everett,
I have some of Garland Bradshaws Dads Saddlebred magazines from the 30's & 40's. Deltaboy did You get some of them?

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deltaboy

Saddlbum,
I think so. I'll check tomorrow when I go to the farm.
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Bubbadog

Was Garland in the Coast Guard during the second world war?
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Everett



Who's Dat
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deltaboy


Doug Wolaver on Go Boy's Sundust[?]
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Everett

Right again deltaboy
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smitty



Who Dis?

Hint: 3 time WC.....
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makethecut

Steve Hill and Merry Souviner?
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smitty

Makethecut,

You are correct. She was the daughter of Go Boy's Souvenir and the 1957, 1958 and 1959 Aged Mare Champion.
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smitty

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Where Dat?
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sadlbum

The Red Mile is right beside Tattersalls - so I'm guessing Lexington KY
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smitty

Right-O !!!
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smitty

This horse was the dam of what well-known horse?:



Who Dat?
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deltaboy

Pride of Stanley, dam of Pride of Midnight. The rider is Mrs. Paul Randolph from Clearwater, Fla.
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smitty

Yes, you are correct on all counts Deltaboy. That mare's genes run in many of the horses showing today.
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smitty



Who Dis?
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deltaboy

That's Percy Moss with Duchess Rene', White Star, & Sun's Texas Gal.
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smitty

I don't know how you do it.......???
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Everett



Who's Dat
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makethecut

That's Mike's Mighty Delight and Mr. Bobo
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Everett

Makethecut
You are right, you guys are Good
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sadlbum

Anyone,
Who was Gerald Pfister & what did He do? I'll have to take Your word for it, because His name just came to mind.
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smitty

Pfister was from Baton Rouge Louisana and owned a Shrimp Boat.

True or False.......was Mike's Mighty Delight a Reserve World Grand Champion?
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deltaboy

Yep, in '73.
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smitty

Correct, I believe he was a 15.2 WC as well...

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Who Dat?
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sadlbum

My guess - Ralph Lovett on The Sound of Fury?
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smitty

Nope.........this was a very brave horse......
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sadlbum

In my opinion this little horse beat Bum so bad that it ain't funny. Ya'll look it up & see where Bum stood the next spring & you might understand why he won.
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cb

I loved this little horse.....He had a heart as big as any horse I had ever seen.
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smitty

His name is " Man of Courage ". I'm not familiar with him......anybody heard of him?
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sadlbum

Smitty,
Was that Frank Roper aboard?
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smitty

Sadlbum, I have no other info on that horse, other than he is out of Old Glory and by Midnight Sun. By the way, I think the Pfisters really were from Baton Rouge, but I was just kidding about owning the shrimp boat. That was Forrest Gump.



Huh?
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sadlbum


Smitty,
Of all the pictures that I have seen in the last 40+ years, I've never seen this one & can't wait until I know who both are.
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ONEHOTMARE

I thought maybe Judy Martin, until I saw the yr. She's not that old.
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smitty

This is probably a very rare photo. It came from a auction at the Walking Horse Hotel in Wartrace. It may not be someone anyone here knows.......but then again it may (???)
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Mason

We know the name of the rider .... but not the ponies name.
Although I know her name I don't remember anything about her.She MAY be a sister to a trainer from Mcminnville Tn....BUT I AM NOT sure?
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sadlbum

Mason,
With those hints I will do some guessing, Kirby, Upton, Blanks, Marcella Stubblefield & Holder, those are all of the trainers that I know have originated from McMinnville.
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Mason

You got her last name...but which one? I doubt we will ever find out that old ponys name
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ONEHOTMARE

Is this lady still living?
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sadlbum

Mason,
I'm gonna, I say I'm a gonna make anuther adjikated gess & say that there gal is Buddy Kirby's sister. There was a WGC pony along about that same time by Merry Boy that Dan Brannan of Belvidere road & a Heinz gal from Selma Alabama also road & her name was Miss Liberty. I know this isn't the same one but they were similar. Gay Girl ridden by Bobby Wiser was also spotted & a WGC.
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Mason

Nope