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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:07 am | |
| That's it! | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:26 am | |
| Here's another one you didn't know I had, Bubbadog. This is the Bubbadog I remember: | |
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Floyd
Posts : 12 Join date : 2010-12-20
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:33 am | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:35 am | |
| Well, I think that photo done excited ole' Floyd! | |
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Bubbadog
Posts : 790 Join date : 2008-07-30 Location : Shelbyville, TN
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:21 am | |
| Thanks again Smitty. I think that I posted on here a couple of weeks ago that this little horses papers weren't exactly "right". He was registered by Shadow's Replica but we were always told that he was by Rodger's Perfection. Then just a couple of weeks ago I ran into Wayne Luna and he told me that he was working at Milky Way farms when my horse was started and he told me that he was actually by Sun's Rocket Go Boy. When I did a little research, I discovered that Sun's Rocket Go Boy is on a lot of spotted papers. Little Silver Horse (what we usually called him - not very creative) was the most fun horse I ever had - he could get the crowd behind him coming in to the Celebration ring and keep it the whole class cause he was fast and shiny like a sports car - that is an awesome feeling - we didn't always win - the competition was fierce back then - but we always had fun! How bout them pig tails?
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:40 am | |
| Here's another fine Roan hoss owned by our friend and co-member Coco, who showed him out of Doug Wolaver Stables. This is Silver Sam, shown here with Janie Julian up and trained at that time by Paul Smith. | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:30 pm | |
| Was Joe Webb the only person to ever ride Carbon Copy in a show ring? | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:57 am | |
| Answer: NO................I think Webb might have been the only person to ever SHOW Carbon Copy, but after C.C. was retired to stud, owner G.L. Lennox exhibited him at a horse show on at least one occasion, if not more. | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:11 am | |
| Where were ground up coconut husks used as a surface for a show ring? A. Coliseum, Nashville, TN B. Tampa, FL C. Freedom Hall, Louisville, Ky D. Cow Palace, San Francisco, CA E. Mobile, AL Feel free to guess at this one......... | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:59 pm | |
| OK.........nobody wanted to take a chance and guess at that one, so here's the answer: C. Freedom Hall, Louisville, Ky.....................Ky. State Fair, late 1960's | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:26 am | |
| What organization was one of the biggest supporters of W.H.O.A. when it was formed in the late 70's? | |
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Bubbadog
Posts : 790 Join date : 2008-07-30 Location : Shelbyville, TN
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:55 pm | |
| The Breeders Association? | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:27 pm | |
| No, B•dog,
It was actually the Ky. Walking Horse Association. In it's early stages, WHOA had a lot of support from the Bluegrass State and a lot of influence as well. | |
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Bubbadog
Posts : 790 Join date : 2008-07-30 Location : Shelbyville, TN
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:32 pm | |
| It was a WILD guess anyway!
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:46 am | |
| Hint: this barn is in Bedford County. Could those be strawberries in the foreground? | |
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ONEHOTMARE
Posts : 336 Join date : 2008-07-30
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:40 am | |
| I first thought it was the Farrar Farm near Flat Creek...but I don't recall the house being exactly as this one. With strawberries, I'd say it's the old Dement place. | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:42 pm | |
| You are correct, OHM.........that is the old Dement place in Wartrace. The famous horses who lived in that barn were Merry Legs and Last Chance, among others. Now called Valley Home Farm owned by the Potts family, they grow and sell strawberries, blueberries and such. Here's the link: http://www.valleyhomefarm.com/ | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:34 am | |
| One of our members, who goes by the name "LibertysJustice" posted an account on Facebook of her visit to Joe Webb's Riding School back in the day. I thought it was a excellent and insightful post; her memories are quite vivid and interesting..........................exactly the kind of stuff I like to post on here:
"I had the extraordinary privilege of attending two of Joe Webb's Adult riding schools in Shelbyville.
I can say with certainty that once you've attended Joe Webb's school, you will be a changed person, as you will have a refined, deep knowledge of horsemanship. There is so much to say of how he taught correct contact on the bit, being "classy" in the lineup as you are still being judged. He would conduct the riding sessions just like a show class, and during the lineup he would holler "get your hands right, get your feet right." No gum chewing and leg swinging in the lineup. He taught finesse and class, and it is so hard to say what impressed me the most because I still use his knowledge every day, but I think it is the fact that he put us on trained stallions and taught us what the "correct feel" felt like. The was the greatest epiphany in my riding. I had ridden pokey old school horses at other lesson stables, but never knew what I was looking for when the instructor called for something. Joe Webb put us on trained stallions, and he told us "when I tell you to do something, do it right then, don't stop and ask why." And what he was doing was teaching us timing and feel. So when he saw a horse ready to move into gear or getting a little out of form, he'd say "bump and let off" on the reins or use your right spur NOW. And it was ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE to go back home after the school, and ride my own horses, and suddenly have all this insight of where I making mistakes with MY horse, because I'd learned the feel and the timing during Joe Webb's school.
I have also had the privilege of being put in Joe Webb's "corner." During his schools, if you weren't getting it right, he would take you off a horse and make you go stand aside in time-out. He put me in the time-out corner. He had already made a lady cry that day and I wasn't going to cry. I was so mad that I was paying to ride not stand in the corner. Someone, maybe one of the Howells, whispered to me that it was okay. That he only put people he believed in into his "corner." And I remember someone coming to check on me to make sure I was handling the disciplinary action okay. After three more students rode, he called out "where's that student that can't canter?" And he put me back on the horse. He told me I wasn't mentally ready before, and he was right. I think four other students helped me back on the horse, one man let me borrow his spurs, and two of the other students fastened the spurs on my boots. The other students were wanting so much to help me as they saw me struggle, and they really reached out to me. One of the men whispered to me, after he fastened a spur on my boot, "the horse is voice trained. Just say "Canter, Horse." ' Everyone was watching as I tried to get the horse to canter. There was complete silence in the barn as everyone waited. And sure enough, when I said "Canter, Horse," thank goodness, he did!!!! And he did it well. I received Joe Webb's highest praise "Lookie here. Now you're riding the hair off that horse!!!" What wonderful memories! It gives me the chills to remember Joe Webb's authenticity and just electrifying emphasis when he would tell someone they were "riding the hair off that horse!" After the school, one of the Howells told me that they were amazed at how short a time I spent in the corner, and that meant Joe Webb REALLY had a lot of belief in me. Those statements meant the world to me. There is something about achieving a "Lookie here" from Joe Webb that just warms your heart and just gives you a surge of power and excitement to keep going, and it's unique and isn't the same from anyone else. I wonder if anyone else remembers the story of Joe Webb putting a military General in the corner and forgetting about him?" I think the General spent about 3 hours in the corner, when Joe Webb finally called out "Hey General, are you ready to canter?!!!" Lookie here, lookie here!
He was a master of horsemanship and the trainer that I hold in the highest esteem of all my horse endeavors. His knowledge is timeless. I rode with him in 1995 and early 1996, the year he died, and all these years later, I still hear his voice in my head, I still ride the way he taught me and want my horses trained to the same level of consistency. Joe Webb set the standard for me. It is so amazing that so many years later, I'll be watching a horse and something will click into place "oh, that's what Joe Webb meant." He just poured out his incredible depth and breadth of knowledge, and it is lasting a lifetime for me. My husband and I still tell each other when we hit a problem "What would Joe Webb say?" And we remember his wisdom and we apply it to what we are doing. My favorite saying of his is "RIDE THE HORSE UNDER YOU. " He said you cannot give your best ride if you are wishing that you were on another horse. So, Ride the Horse Under You. That applies to life in general, and has been wisdom I've kept close to my heart. I cannot even place a value on how much impact he has had on our lives; my husband and I were truly distraught when he died. I wish SO MUCH, SO INCREDIBLY MUCH that I could talk to him today, and tell him how right he was,and how he taught us to be real true horsemen and horsewomen, and to ride and train with "feel." I have two of his horses, and we are breeding the Carbon Copy line to keep his breeding alive. I just know he would be proud that so that he had SO MUCH IMPACT on the lives of his students,and I never get tired of hearing people tell "their Joe Webb stories." This is a great topic and I hope many join in. One final thought, there was a filly born the day Joe Webb died, she was a dummy foal. Janet Howell said she was overcome with grief, but she felt that Joe Webb would want her to try to save the filly. She and Jordan worked and saved the filly. It was by Macho Man out of a Carbon Copy mare. That "filly"is now 15 years old and in my barn, and has 12 world grand champions on her papers. My broodmare band is dominated by daughters out of one of Joe Webb's mares. I have three generations of that breeding at my farm now, and the majority of our 30 horses have Carbon Copy breeding. If only I could talk to him one more time and let him know what a fabulous foundation he laid for his students, and how I have matured in my understanding and now understand so many things that I didn't grasp at the time, but they are now unfolding within me. Joe Webb's horses, books, training, and insights will be a part of our family FOREVER."
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sowega
Posts : 78 Join date : 2010-08-01 Age : 76 Location : SOuthWEstGeorgiA, LEESBURG
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:45 am | |
| What a tremendous and worthy tribute to a real Walking Horse trainer. It does make you wonder where our industry would be if more people had adopted this mindset. I've only heard stories of Joe Webb, but I've never heard a negative one. | |
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Mister
Posts : 53 Join date : 2011-05-24 Location : Texarcana, Arkansas
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:22 pm | |
| Well done! All I can say is BRAVO for Joe Webb! An incredible innovator, horseman and person. | |
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senator69
Posts : 532 Join date : 2008-07-31 Location : The Sunshine State
| Subject: trivia Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:54 pm | |
| I always tell people Joe was the original "Horse Whisperer" as far as I'm concerned! | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:16 am | |
| I remember when I started out training my own horse in 1979, the only thing I had besides the horse, were a saddle, a bridle, two sets of chains, a bucket of grease and a copy of Joe Webb's "The Care & Training of the Tennessee Walking Horse." | |
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Coco
Posts : 24 Join date : 2010-02-06
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:22 pm | |
| I haven't been on WHT for several days and missed the posting of the photo of my precious Silver Sam. Thanks so much! I had forgotten about that photo. Anyone know where Janie Julian is? She married Jerry Beech of Belfast and they had a son. I lost touch so many years ago. | |
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smitty Admin
Posts : 6175 Join date : 2008-07-29
| Subject: Re: Let's Talk Walking Horse Trivia Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:02 pm | |
| You're welcome Coco. I thought you might enjoy seeing that one! | |
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